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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2011, 12:33:32 PM »

The prizes could be interesting.

The guarantee is €250k which means 5000 entrants.

However because it's a satellite type event there aren't going to be 500 people paid out.

Payouts will be for everyone who makes day 2 but that will only be 10% of the number of unique players not including re entries.


presumably once you're through to day 2 you can't then reenter as you can only play day 2 once so payouts will be 10% of total entries, not unique
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2011, 12:36:47 PM »

if your theory was right matt then on the last day 1 if 500 people were playing but only 10 of them hadn't played before so were new unique entries then only 1 of the 500 would get through to day 2
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2011, 12:37:06 PM »

The prizes could be interesting.

The guarantee is €250k which means 5000 entrants.

However because it's a satellite type event there aren't going to be 500 people paid out.

Payouts will be for everyone who makes day 2 but that will only be 10% of the number of unique players not including re entries.


presumably once you're through to day 2 you can't then reenter as you can only play day 2 once so payouts will be 10% of total entries, not unique

Assume there's 1000 unique entrants but say 3000 total entries. Only a max of 100 can make day 2 in that scenario. So it's effectively paying out 1/30th of the field.
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2011, 12:55:08 PM »

In theory I suppose the maximum number of day 2 players is 99.9% of the unique entries.

Assume 1000 entries who all keep re entering.

1st comp 100 get through of 1000.

2nd comp 90/900

3rd comp 81/810

4th comp 73/729

etc..... until you've only got 9 left who can't play any more.

I need to think about this some more. Very confusing.

DTD need the players who are prepared to re enter to keep losing in order to meet the guarantee.

If the deep pockets all get through on their 1st go there's going to be a big overlay.
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2011, 01:03:30 PM »

Simon,
 if i win JASON HERBERT wins say 4 golden chip Sat's ...but get through to day 2 at my first attempt do i get a refund on the other three seats?
fantastic event this week well done to all at the club and the updates by tighty
really looking forward to this

amazing dtd

Lol ty eso. It's great to be recognised for my achievements but I never actually get the grand prix golden chips.

Dewi, many do try to copy Dtd which is a massive compliment but as Dtd are so innovative it is often the case that by time the competition have got organised, rob simon and the team have moved on.

I mentioned on another thread about chatting with rob last Wednesday and It was interesting to note that rob was listening intently to a young lad I had with me. He is one of the masses that loves this £50 games and the target Market rob is aiming for. This kid probably now thinks rob has borrowed some of his ideas
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« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2011, 01:41:52 PM »

What car do we win?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Mini.
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« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2011, 02:07:23 PM »

In theory I suppose the maximum number of day 2 players is 99.9% of the unique entries.

Assume 1000 entries who all keep re entering.

1st comp 100 get through of 1000.

2nd comp 90/900

3rd comp 81/810

4th comp 73/729

etc..... until you've only got 9 left who can't play any more.

I need to think about this some more. Very confusing.

DTD need the players who are prepared to re enter to keep losing in order to meet the guarantee.

If the deep pockets all get through on their 1st go there's going to be a big overlay.


Actually I think we might be wrong here. We need clarification on what "top 10%" means. 10% of unique entries or 10% of total entries. If a qualifier gets 100 people and re-entries takes it to 200 entries then they will probably put 20 through? The thing about that though is you could theoretically end up in a situation where you're putting more than 100% of the field through, though I guess realistically that would never happen.
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« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2011, 02:22:34 PM »

I think you guys are making this too complicated.


It's effectively a DTD Festival structure two day event.  €500 entry.

Entry is through one of the 10 online or 10 live 'Day 1 Satellites', with 10% of each Day 1 making it through.

Everyone who makes it through is guaranteed a payout, and you can enter as many of the 'Day 1 Satellites' as you need to make it through.

I'd imagine that the week of online tourneys will fill a lot of the seats, as there will be less additional costs for players.  Sounds a very well thought out structure.

500 players back for the Saturday would be an awesome atmosphere at DTD.

At this rate, I could just be living in Nottingham for all of August, what with APAT's WCOAP there for a week at the end of the month.   Grin
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« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2011, 04:00:32 PM »

I think you guys are making this too complicated.


But we like doing that.
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« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2011, 04:06:14 PM »

ah, now I get where the confusion is. I'm assuming that re-entries means you can enter another qualifier. matt/nana assuming you can do that or re-enter the same one

surely I'm assuming it correctly as I can't imagine the dtd software allows for re-entries in the online qualifiers, they'll just be run as seperate tournies and you can enter more than one of these, no?

or will the live and online day 1s be using different rules?
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« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2011, 04:06:51 PM »


It's effectively a DTD Festival structure two day event.  €500 entry.


I much preferred the "its a shootout but the tables merge". Some people could be expecting €500 just for getting through if you say its a €500 tourny.
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« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2011, 04:11:47 PM »

speaking to rob on wednesday he was concerned for his bread and butter punters who play a few nights a week at dtd. they had nothing to do last week as the grand prix took up all the space. with the re entry they can play on other days if the get knocked out or hopefully there may be space for a smaller comp in the evening given the staggered starts / split days.
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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2011, 04:12:43 PM »


It's effectively a DTD Festival structure two day event.  €500 entry.



It's not a €500 tourney at all though because you're already in the money.

It's the 2nd stage of a €50 tourney and you've already min cashed.

Whatever it is, despite my early reservations I now think it's awesome purely because nobody has a clue how it's going to work out.

Whatever happens I know I'll be having a few goes.
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« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2011, 04:18:24 PM »

Has anyone spoke to Rob?

Anyhoo

Yeah looks great, I like it a lot, defo have a go at qualifying online, starting a live tourney already in the money ftw!
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« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2011, 04:23:27 PM »

ah, now I get where the confusion is. I'm assuming that re-entries means you can enter another qualifier. matt/nana assuming you can do that or re-enter the same one

surely I'm assuming it correctly as I can't imagine the dtd software allows for re-entries in the online qualifiers, they'll just be run as seperate tournies and you can enter more than one of these, no?

or will the live and online day 1s be using different rules?

I'm still assuming you can re-enter on the day. Would make sense, esp for the live legs.

Whether or not DTDs software allows you to do this online is a different question of course...
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