Competition: Win a Session with Mental Game Coach Jared Tendler

[Jared Tendler]

i need the motivation more than anyone, i just cant keep my mind on the game. i keep letting mind wonder even stuck on bedrest at the moment i could be playing 16 hours a day but i keep putting off opening the software. any old excuse will do to do something else, i really enjoy the game when i get going but do lose concentration when deep and tried opening more tables and closing don table to keep mind active

i only have 2 hobbies in life chasing women and playing poker and currently i cant chase women so should be 100% focused on poker but tonight is another example of me not being motivated enough to open the software up

oh and i can moan more than GL2 if anyone would listen to me

Motivation is driven by goals. What are your goals?

Motivation is also hidden by issues like tilt, fear, and confidence - do you have any of these?

[Jared Tendler]

Yeh same as Ironside. I waste hrs of my life sometimes sitting in front of the lappy when i should be grinding but i dont. I blame it on a lack of motivation but i'm not sure thats the sole reason. For example im going to a wedding tomorrow so i'm reluctant to logon incase i lose money tonight thus affecting my mood tomo. arrrgh uehfuihgcdbzfjscdiljfdskcj

The second part of what you said, says it all: "encase I lose money thus affecting my mood." This is an example of tilt or how badly you handle losing affecting motivation. You're going to avoid playing because you're avoiding the wrath of losing. It's like beaten dog syndrome - you cower from poker because you're avoiding the lashing. The key here is to make losing hurt less. May sound hard to do, or like you have to rationalize it, but the reality is that not everyone hates losing, so there must be a reason you do. So what is it? Why is losing so painful?

[Jared Tendler]

I think that i would be a good candidate for this because perhaps if i was set on my way i think i could be exceptional.

I have the ability to grind between 16-18 tables at a time well and not on abc mode. I can play 12 hour spells relatively easily and i am a big winner in the tournaments i play when i play them effectively and that is the problem. I never seem to be prepared for a grind nearly as much as i should be. I am always tired or somewhat already preoccupied with something else and sub consciously i would say i do it deliberately because i always want to have an excuse in case things don't go as well as planned. I always have never set up a HUD always complaining that its too hard to setup and the stat boxes would only set out to tilt but i have never tried it because a part of me thinks i am too good to be needing it and another thinks its a weakness to be getting this much aid.

I may have an overconfidence problem as well, i never really look to improve my game via openly trying to watch videos or read on forums because it loses my attention very quickly and there are definitely spots that i need another opinion on. Particularly 3bet spots pre flop with AQ, but these are normally dependent on who has just raised you, maybe if i had the HUD setup i would know how best to act!

In most cases i know exactly where i am going wrong but i am feeling that maybe i am strangely perverted towards wanting to give myself a hard time. Maybe because i like the rush of losing money so quickly because of the harsh bodily sensation it gives you and as you can guarantee that over the equal sensation of winning huge amounts, its easier just to lose money to feel the rush. Interested backers apply here!

If i get this i think i would be a very interesting listen because it will most probably be a deconstruction of my lunacy and i believe not many players have stayed afloat as a winning poker player with the tendencies i have but somehow i am still winning enough to be comfortable. Wouldn't mind knowing what i would be like if i was in less self turmoil, perhaps Mr.Tendler could help me on my way, obviously i know he would have no magic wand though!

You're not alone with this kind of enjoyment of losing - I've found another reason players enjoy losing is that it's in their control. When other parts of the game feel out of control - at least something still can be controlled.

Whether that's true or not, why is it that you need an excuse? Obviously it's going to relieve some of the pressure of having to play at a high level - which makes me wonder if you're also holding yourself to unreasonably high standards/expectations? Perfectionism, that kind of thing. What do you think?

[Ant040689]

I think that i would be a good candidate for this because perhaps if i was set on my way i think i could be exceptional.

I have the ability to grind between 16-18 tables at a time well and not on abc mode. I can play 12 hour spells relatively easily and i am a big winner in the tournaments i play when i play them effectively and that is the problem. I never seem to be prepared for a grind nearly as much as i should be. I am always tired or somewhat already preoccupied with something else and sub consciously i would say i do it deliberately because i always want to have an excuse in case things don't go as well as planned. I always have never set up a HUD always complaining that its too hard to setup and the stat boxes would only set out to tilt but i have never tried it because a part of me thinks i am too good to be needing it and another thinks its a weakness to be getting this much aid.

I may have an overconfidence problem as well, i never really look to improve my game via openly trying to watch videos or read on forums because it loses my attention very quickly and there are definitely spots that i need another opinion on. Particularly 3bet spots pre flop with AQ, but these are normally dependent on who has just raised you, maybe if i had the HUD setup i would know how best to act!

In most cases i know exactly where i am going wrong but i am feeling that maybe i am strangely perverted towards wanting to give myself a hard time. Maybe because i like the rush of losing money so quickly because of the harsh bodily sensation it gives you and as you can guarantee that over the equal sensation of winning huge amounts, its easier just to lose money to feel the rush. Interested backers apply here!

If i get this i think i would be a very interesting listen because it will most probably be a deconstruction of my lunacy and i believe not many players have stayed afloat as a winning poker player with the tendencies i have but somehow i am still winning enough to be comfortable. Wouldn't mind knowing what i would be like if i was in less self turmoil, perhaps Mr.Tendler could help me on my way, obviously i know he would have no magic wand though!

You're not alone with this kind of enjoyment of losing - I've found another reason players enjoy losing is that it's in their control. When other parts of the game feel out of control - at least something still can be controlled.

Whether that's true or not, why is it that you need an excuse? Obviously it's going to relieve some of the pressure of having to play at a high level - which makes me wonder if you're also holding yourself to unreasonably high standards/expectations? Perfectionism, that kind of thing. What do you think?

Yeh that is spot on really. I do demand a lot of myself and i tilt as a result of thinking that i am not doing all i can but in all honesty i probably am. I need to accept the nature of the game and just be as good as i can with the fluctuations without trying to find meaning behind it all.

The perfectionism thing is pretty hardcore with me. I have to play long hours i have to try and win every tournament and i need to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible and it makes me over zealous at times. Will need to know how to relax really.

Also possibly i rate my game too highly when i have leaks and should be more adaptable to change my learning more through online tuition videos.

[Ironside]

i need the motivation more than anyone, i just cant keep my mind on the game. i keep letting mind wonder even stuck on bedrest at the moment i could be playing 16 hours a day but i keep putting off opening the software. any old excuse will do to do something else, i really enjoy the game when i get going but do lose concentration when deep and tried opening more tables and closing don table to keep mind active

i only have 2 hobbies in life chasing women and playing poker and currently i cant chase women so should be 100% focused on poker but tonight is another example of me not being motivated enough to open the software up

oh and i can moan more than GL2 if anyone would listen to me

Motivation is driven by goals. What are your goals?

Motivation is also hidden by issues like tilt, fear, and confidence - do you have any of these?

my goal is to win enough online to pay for my trips away to play poker (which are mainly piss ups)

i never used to tilt though i think i have started
i have no fear or confidance

[Jared Tendler]

I think that i would be a good candidate for this because perhaps if i was set on my way i think i could be exceptional.

I have the ability to grind between 16-18 tables at a time well and not on abc mode. I can play 12 hour spells relatively easily and i am a big winner in the tournaments i play when i play them effectively and that is the problem. I never seem to be prepared for a grind nearly as much as i should be. I am always tired or somewhat already preoccupied with something else and sub consciously i would say i do it deliberately because i always want to have an excuse in case things don't go as well as planned. I always have never set up a HUD always complaining that its too hard to setup and the stat boxes would only set out to tilt but i have never tried it because a part of me thinks i am too good to be needing it and another thinks its a weakness to be getting this much aid.

I may have an overconfidence problem as well, i never really look to improve my game via openly trying to watch videos or read on forums because it loses my attention very quickly and there are definitely spots that i need another opinion on. Particularly 3bet spots pre flop with AQ, but these are normally dependent on who has just raised you, maybe if i had the HUD setup i would know how best to act!

In most cases i know exactly where i am going wrong but i am feeling that maybe i am strangely perverted towards wanting to give myself a hard time. Maybe because i like the rush of losing money so quickly because of the harsh bodily sensation it gives you and as you can guarantee that over the equal sensation of winning huge amounts, its easier just to lose money to feel the rush. Interested backers apply here!

If i get this i think i would be a very interesting listen because it will most probably be a deconstruction of my lunacy and i believe not many players have stayed afloat as a winning poker player with the tendencies i have but somehow i am still winning enough to be comfortable. Wouldn't mind knowing what i would be like if i was in less self turmoil, perhaps Mr.Tendler could help me on my way, obviously i know he would have no magic wand though!

You're not alone with this kind of enjoyment of losing - I've found another reason players enjoy losing is that it's in their control. When other parts of the game feel out of control - at least something still can be controlled.

Whether that's true or not, why is it that you need an excuse? Obviously it's going to relieve some of the pressure of having to play at a high level - which makes me wonder if you're also holding yourself to unreasonably high standards/expectations? Perfectionism, that kind of thing. What do you think?

Yeh that is spot on really. I do demand a lot of myself and i tilt as a result of thinking that i am not doing all i can but in all honesty i probably am. I need to accept the nature of the game and just be as good as i can with the fluctuations without trying to find meaning behind it all.

The perfectionism thing is pretty hardcore with me. I have to play long hours i have to try and win every tournament and i need to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible and it makes me over zealous at times. Will need to know how to relax really.

Also possibly i rate my game too highly when i have leaks and should be more adaptable to change my learning more through online tuition videos.

Great insight. This is a big step towards cracking this prob. Relaxing isn't the solution, the solution is to prove why your expectations are too high, and are unreasonable. Often that comes down to a failure in understanding the realities of the learning process. Being perfectionistic, means that you'll have very little tolerance for mistakes, when mistakes are a legit part of learning. Very simply, if you aren't making mistakes you aren't learning. It's part of it. Perfect poker over large stretches of time isn't possible, and the best players in the world know that.

Also important to breaking perfectionism/high expectations is to change everything you think you should be able to do, and turn it into a goal. Expectations mean, that you subconsciously believe you already have the knowledge to be able to achieve your expectations...but that's clearly not true. Instead, set goals, and work towards it. Do that, and your last point about ignoring leaks will go away as a problem.

Make sense? Help?

[Jared Tendler]

i need the motivation more than anyone, i just cant keep my mind on the game. i keep letting mind wonder even stuck on bedrest at the moment i could be playing 16 hours a day but i keep putting off opening the software. any old excuse will do to do something else, i really enjoy the game when i get going but do lose concentration when deep and tried opening more tables and closing don table to keep mind active

i only have 2 hobbies in life chasing women and playing poker and currently i cant chase women so should be 100% focused on poker but tonight is another example of me not being motivated enough to open the software up

oh and i can moan more than GL2 if anyone would listen to me

Motivation is driven by goals. What are your goals?

Motivation is also hidden by issues like tilt, fear, and confidence - do you have any of these?

my goal is to win enough online to pay for my trips away to play poker (which are mainly piss ups)

i never used to tilt though i think i have started
i have no fear or confidance

Every time you find your motivation slipping, remind yourself of the money you need for your trips and the consequences of not playing. You get a choice in that moment, just make it more conscious about the reward of playing and the consequence of not.

[Ant040689]

I think that i would be a good candidate for this because perhaps if i was set on my way i think i could be exceptional.

I have the ability to grind between 16-18 tables at a time well and not on abc mode. I can play 12 hour spells relatively easily and i am a big winner in the tournaments i play when i play them effectively and that is the problem. I never seem to be prepared for a grind nearly as much as i should be. I am always tired or somewhat already preoccupied with something else and sub consciously i would say i do it deliberately because i always want to have an excuse in case things don't go as well as planned. I always have never set up a HUD always complaining that its too hard to setup and the stat boxes would only set out to tilt but i have never tried it because a part of me thinks i am too good to be needing it and another thinks its a weakness to be getting this much aid.

I may have an overconfidence problem as well, i never really look to improve my game via openly trying to watch videos or read on forums because it loses my attention very quickly and there are definitely spots that i need another opinion on. Particularly 3bet spots pre flop with AQ, but these are normally dependent on who has just raised you, maybe if i had the HUD setup i would know how best to act!

In most cases i know exactly where i am going wrong but i am feeling that maybe i am strangely perverted towards wanting to give myself a hard time. Maybe because i like the rush of losing money so quickly because of the harsh bodily sensation it gives you and as you can guarantee that over the equal sensation of winning huge amounts, its easier just to lose money to feel the rush. Interested backers apply here!

If i get this i think i would be a very interesting listen because it will most probably be a deconstruction of my lunacy and i believe not many players have stayed afloat as a winning poker player with the tendencies i have but somehow i am still winning enough to be comfortable. Wouldn't mind knowing what i would be like if i was in less self turmoil, perhaps Mr.Tendler could help me on my way, obviously i know he would have no magic wand though!

You're not alone with this kind of enjoyment of losing - I've found another reason players enjoy losing is that it's in their control. When other parts of the game feel out of control - at least something still can be controlled.

Whether that's true or not, why is it that you need an excuse? Obviously it's going to relieve some of the pressure of having to play at a high level - which makes me wonder if you're also holding yourself to unreasonably high standards/expectations? Perfectionism, that kind of thing. What do you think?

Yeh that is spot on really. I do demand a lot of myself and i tilt as a result of thinking that i am not doing all i can but in all honesty i probably am. I need to accept the nature of the game and just be as good as i can with the fluctuations without trying to find meaning behind it all.

The perfectionism thing is pretty hardcore with me. I have to play long hours i have to try and win every tournament and i need to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible and it makes me over zealous at times. Will need to know how to relax really.

Also possibly i rate my game too highly when i have leaks and should be more adaptable to change my learning more through online tuition videos.

Great insight. This is a big step towards cracking this prob. Relaxing isn't the solution, the solution is to prove why your expectations are too high, and are unreasonable. Often that comes down to a failure in understanding the realities of the learning process. Being perfectionistic, means that you'll have very little tolerance for mistakes, when mistakes are a legit part of learning. Very simply, if you aren't making mistakes you aren't learning. It's part of it. Perfect poker over large stretches of time isn't possible, and the best players in the world know that.

Also important to breaking perfectionism/high expectations is to change everything you think you should be able to do, and turn it into a goal. Expectations mean, that you subconsciously believe you already have the knowledge to be able to achieve your expectations...but that's clearly not true. Instead, set goals, and work towards it. Do that, and your last point about ignoring leaks will go away as a problem.

Make sense? Help?

I have always thought that making mistakes was a part of learning and i do often make mistakes in spots whereby i know it would be safe to fold but i have a gut instinct that he is bluffing and i make the call. A lot of the time i am correct but obviously there are times when i am not and when i am not it boils down to me overlooking some vital, pre flop/flop information that would have made me think differently or of course i have just been plain outplayed and that is also fine.

So a goal here would be to make sure i know all the action that has happened before i make a tough call for a lot of chips. This would be done by ensuring i am not playing so many tables that i cannot track the ins and outs of a hand. So make sure i am never playing an uncomfortable amount of tables at one time that would be a detriment towards effective poker.

Thinking about it the reason i may be playing lots of tables in the first place is the over zealous nature i have to get to the promised land of a much higher bankroll as quickly as possible when really i probably get there on less tables and playing them more effectively.

I think this would increase my tolerance towards mistakes partly because i would naturally be making less and also that despite making mistakes, there were logical intentions behind them and weren't the actions of a man on tilt. Normally i would get more upset about the reasons behind making the mistake than the mistake itself, if you understand me? Hopefully with what has been said above that can be nicely quelled, eventually.

I do quite like the goal setting angle instead of thinking too much on expectations. Mainly because as you said i am in no fit state to be someone who is making expectations!

My goals would be to go to gym daily for an hour to improve concetration levels, 5 days a week, for the long hours of poker play, improved diet for the same reason, 30 mins a day to spend on hand history revision and tuition videos. Also, making sure i am gambling within a safe limit so i needn't worry about how adventurously i play. Getting Holdem manager to be up and running as well to help in play and with revising hand histories.

Would also imagine by the same advice you would say not to concentrate too much on what my bankroll is but more towards how i can improve myself towards making it easier for me to make more money?

[Amatay]

Yeh same as Ironside. I waste hrs of my life sometimes sitting in front of the lappy when i should be grinding but i dont. I blame it on a lack of motivation but i'm not sure thats the sole reason. For example im going to a wedding tomorrow so i'm reluctant to logon incase i lose money tonight thus affecting my mood tomo. arrrgh uehfuihgcdbzfjscdiljfdskcj

The second part of what you said, says it all: "encase I lose money thus affecting my mood." This is an example of tilt or how badly you handle losing affecting motivation. You're going to avoid playing because you're avoiding the wrath of losing. It's like beaten dog syndrome - you cower from poker because you're avoiding the lashing. The key here is to make losing hurt less. May sound hard to do, or like you have to rationalize it, but the reality is that not everyone hates losing, so there must be a reason you do. So what is it? Why is losing so painful?

Thıs ıs ıt! Ive kında known the reason myself tbh but these words makes perfect sense. The stupıd thıng ıs ı know ı can and have made a lvıng out of poker for 3 yrs and ı roughly know that ıf ı play X amount of hands/hrs/mtts ı wıll earn an approx amount of $. However, ı stıll tend to avoıd playıng even though ım a proven wınner at the games ı play?? Deep down ı know the more ı play the more ı wın, sımples. But ı dont do ıt, ı put off playıng. The only tımes ı really put gd effort ın ıs when ı have too and when my bankroll drops to a certaın lımıt whıch has to be topped up to pay the bılls etc and be comfortable. I suppose ıts the same when ı play a few hrs and and make a gd profıt, ı log off just ıncase ı lose all/some of ıt bk. Stupıd. You,re sooo rıght ı need to make losıng less paınful.

[Jared Tendler]

I think that i would be a good candidate for this because perhaps if i was set on my way i think i could be exceptional.

I have the ability to grind between 16-18 tables at a time well and not on abc mode. I can play 12 hour spells relatively easily and i am a big winner in the tournaments i play when i play them effectively and that is the problem. I never seem to be prepared for a grind nearly as much as i should be. I am always tired or somewhat already preoccupied with something else and sub consciously i would say i do it deliberately because i always want to have an excuse in case things don't go as well as planned. I always have never set up a HUD always complaining that its too hard to setup and the stat boxes would only set out to tilt but i have never tried it because a part of me thinks i am too good to be needing it and another thinks its a weakness to be getting this much aid.

I may have an overconfidence problem as well, i never really look to improve my game via openly trying to watch videos or read on forums because it loses my attention very quickly and there are definitely spots that i need another opinion on. Particularly 3bet spots pre flop with AQ, but these are normally dependent on who has just raised you, maybe if i had the HUD setup i would know how best to act!

In most cases i know exactly where i am going wrong but i am feeling that maybe i am strangely perverted towards wanting to give myself a hard time. Maybe because i like the rush of losing money so quickly because of the harsh bodily sensation it gives you and as you can guarantee that over the equal sensation of winning huge amounts, its easier just to lose money to feel the rush. Interested backers apply here!

If i get this i think i would be a very interesting listen because it will most probably be a deconstruction of my lunacy and i believe not many players have stayed afloat as a winning poker player with the tendencies i have but somehow i am still winning enough to be comfortable. Wouldn't mind knowing what i would be like if i was in less self turmoil, perhaps Mr.Tendler could help me on my way, obviously i know he would have no magic wand though!

You're not alone with this kind of enjoyment of losing - I've found another reason players enjoy losing is that it's in their control. When other parts of the game feel out of control - at least something still can be controlled.

Whether that's true or not, why is it that you need an excuse? Obviously it's going to relieve some of the pressure of having to play at a high level - which makes me wonder if you're also holding yourself to unreasonably high standards/expectations? Perfectionism, that kind of thing. What do you think?

Yeh that is spot on really. I do demand a lot of myself and i tilt as a result of thinking that i am not doing all i can but in all honesty i probably am. I need to accept the nature of the game and just be as good as i can with the fluctuations without trying to find meaning behind it all.

The perfectionism thing is pretty hardcore with me. I have to play long hours i have to try and win every tournament and i need to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible and it makes me over zealous at times. Will need to know how to relax really.

Also possibly i rate my game too highly when i have leaks and should be more adaptable to change my learning more through online tuition videos.

Great insight. This is a big step towards cracking this prob. Relaxing isn't the solution, the solution is to prove why your expectations are too high, and are unreasonable. Often that comes down to a failure in understanding the realities of the learning process. Being perfectionistic, means that you'll have very little tolerance for mistakes, when mistakes are a legit part of learning. Very simply, if you aren't making mistakes you aren't learning. It's part of it. Perfect poker over large stretches of time isn't possible, and the best players in the world know that.

Also important to breaking perfectionism/high expectations is to change everything you think you should be able to do, and turn it into a goal. Expectations mean, that you subconsciously believe you already have the knowledge to be able to achieve your expectations...but that's clearly not true. Instead, set goals, and work towards it. Do that, and your last point about ignoring leaks will go away as a problem.

Make sense? Help?

I have always thought that making mistakes was a part of learning and i do often make mistakes in spots whereby i know it would be safe to fold but i have a gut instinct that he is bluffing and i make the call. A lot of the time i am correct but obviously there are times when i am not and when i am not it boils down to me overlooking some vital, pre flop/flop information that would have made me think differently or of course i have just been plain outplayed and that is also fine.

So a goal here would be to make sure i know all the action that has happened before i make a tough call for a lot of chips. This would be done by ensuring i am not playing so many tables that i cannot track the ins and outs of a hand. So make sure i am never playing an uncomfortable amount of tables at one time that would be a detriment towards effective poker.

Thinking about it the reason i may be playing lots of tables in the first place is the over zealous nature i have to get to the promised land of a much higher bankroll as quickly as possible when really i probably get there on less tables and playing them more effectively.

I think this would increase my tolerance towards mistakes partly because i would naturally be making less and also that despite making mistakes, there were logical intentions behind them and weren't the actions of a man on tilt. Normally i would get more upset about the reasons behind making the mistake than the mistake itself, if you understand me? Hopefully with what has been said above that can be nicely quelled, eventually.

I do quite like the goal setting angle instead of thinking too much on expectations. Mainly because as you said i am in no fit state to be someone who is making expectations!

My goals would be to go to gym daily for an hour to improve concetration levels, 5 days a week, for the long hours of poker play, improved diet for the same reason, 30 mins a day to spend on hand history revision and tuition videos. Also, making sure i am gambling within a safe limit so i needn't worry about how adventurously i play. Getting Holdem manager to be up and running as well to help in play and with revising hand histories.

Would also imagine by the same advice you would say not to concentrate too much on what my bankroll is but more towards how i can improve myself towards making it easier for me to make more money?

Great reply again. I can tell this is really hitting home, and you're on a great track.

I bolded one phase in your post, just to point out how relevant it is as an underlying cause of you're problems. The key here is not just to go slower, it's to realize that going slower is the sustainable way to build your skill level. Which is why my answer to your questions is yes. Skill is what you really want to be focusing on most, because it's what's going to help you to continue to grow your bankroll in a real way, and not have it just get artificially padded by variance.

You're on the right track. Stop back if you have questions in the future.

[Jared Tendler]

Yeh same as Ironside. I waste hrs of my life sometimes sitting in front of the lappy when i should be grinding but i dont. I blame it on a lack of motivation but i'm not sure thats the sole reason. For example im going to a wedding tomorrow so i'm reluctant to logon incase i lose money tonight thus affecting my mood tomo. arrrgh uehfuihgcdbzfjscdiljfdskcj

The second part of what you said, says it all: "encase I lose money thus affecting my mood." This is an example of tilt or how badly you handle losing affecting motivation. You're going to avoid playing because you're avoiding the wrath of losing. It's like beaten dog syndrome - you cower from poker because you're avoiding the lashing. The key here is to make losing hurt less. May sound hard to do, or like you have to rationalize it, but the reality is that not everyone hates losing, so there must be a reason you do. So what is it? Why is losing so painful?

Thıs ıs ıt! Ive kında known the reason myself tbh but these words makes perfect sense. The stupıd thıng ıs ı know ı can and have made a lvıng out of poker for 3 yrs and ı roughly know that ıf ı play X amount of hands/hrs/mtts ı wıll earn an approx amount of $. However, ı stıll tend to avoıd playıng even though ım a proven wınner at the games ı play?? Deep down ı know the more ı play the more ı wın, sımples. But ı dont do ıt, ı put off playıng. The only tımes ı really put gd effort ın ıs when ı have too and when my bankroll drops to a certaın lımıt whıch has to be topped up to pay the bılls etc and be comfortable. I suppose ıts the same when ı play a few hrs and and make a gd profıt, ı log off just ıncase ı lose all/some of ıt bk. Stupıd. You,re sooo rıght ı need to make losıng less paınful.

Glad I could make things more simple for you. Perhaps one thing that will help make losing less painful, is to not be quite so hard on yourself. High expectations can be a big cause of losing being more painful than it should. Keep an eye out for that being true. There are likely others, and let me know if you get stuck trying to figure out how to make losing less painful.

[DaveShoelace]

So the session with George is now up to listen to and I think it is pure gold.

http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/instructional/handling-bad-beats/

I'd advise anyone who struggles with bad beats to take a listen, not only does Jared give some great advice, but George really really makes it something special. Its worth a listen just to hear Jared call George a 'highly skilled complainer' and George's reply to that.

[smashedagain]

So the session with George is now up to listen to and I think it is pure gold.

http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/instructional/handling-bad-beats/

I'd advise anyone who struggles with bad beats to take a listen, not only does Jared give some great advice, but George really really makes it something special. Its worth a listen just to hear Jared call George a 'highly skilled complainer' and George's reply to that.

yeah priceless... its intresting that in the original questinaire george is going through the list saying "yeah i do that, and that ,and that" the end result of this is gonna bring a new poisitive george to the table that is gonna mean pain and heartache for the rest of us"

[Graham C]

I'd like to be more motivated.  I'd write more about it but...........

[pokerfan]

So the session with George is now up to listen to and I think it is pure gold.

http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/instructional/handling-bad-beats/

I'd advise anyone who struggles with bad beats to take a listen, not only does Jared give some great advice, but George really really makes it something special. Its worth a listen just to hear Jared call George a 'highly skilled complainer' and George's reply to that.

What is the total running time Barry ?