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« on: June 13, 2011, 02:44:52 AM »

What range are we shoving here vs unknowns?

Ever doing something that isn't shoving/folding?

PokerStars Game #63279982381: Tournament #424011267, $20+$5+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (25000/50000) - 2011/06/13 1:40:35 WET [2011/06/12 20:40:35 ET]
Table '424011267 60' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Gazzarooni (410689 in chips)
Seat 6: kagiot (871098 in chips)
Seat 7: stato_1 (666528 in chips)
Seat 8: saltalabanca (648858 in chips)
Seat 9: nozzor (456827 in chips)
Gazzarooni: posts the ante 5000
kagiot: posts the ante 5000
stato_1: posts the ante 5000
saltalabanca: posts the ante 5000
nozzor: posts the ante 5000
Gazzarooni: posts small blind 25000
kagiot: posts big blind 50000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stato_1
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 02:47:22 AM »

payouts?
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 02:50:57 AM »

66+ a8+ kj+

maybe depends on how they are palying and if the bb is tight + ur image

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 02:51:49 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 04:14:23 AM »

Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 08:01:46 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 09:27:17 AM »

Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 09:44:53 AM »

Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here

Think this is where reads come into it I think. If we have a calling station in the blinds we should have a very tight shoving range etc. If there's a winning player behind who will call the shoves fairly light thinking our range is pretty wide then obviously we can't be shoving a5s.

As a general rule I'm shoving something like 22+, ATo+, KQo
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 10:24:53 AM »

Pretty much never doing anything other than shoving or folding unless I have limp folded to a very aggressive player earlier on and think he might do it again.  I like Ho's range but am probably a bit wider tbh.  This is the time to be applying the pressure.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 11:00:15 AM »

I haven't done any maths on the situation but I reckon we could jam A5s turn our hand face up have them call perfectly and still be +EV.  If not, then I would be pretty surprised if it wasn't +EV with our hand face down.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 02:49:09 PM »

A9o?
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2011, 03:00:40 PM »

A9o?

Shove/Shove
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2011, 04:01:00 PM »

Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here

Definitely some merit to not busting first here
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 01:07:43 AM »

Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here

Definitely some merit to not busting first here

That's what they are thinking...

A9o I'm def shoving
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 01:25:32 AM »

Jammings lots

Can't imagine me folding many suited connectors here

Folding A9o here would be terrrrrribad imo
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