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[SuuPRlim]

playing $10/$25 at the RIO.

Button has straddled to $50

BB peels, one limp, I call   , H-J limps, BTN chks.

Flop comes   . ($260)

chks to me I lead for  $200

H-J calls, SB calls all other fold.

Turn   ($860)

I bet $750 H-J calls, SB folds.

River   ($2360)

I bet $725 with ~$2,000 behind (he covers easily) he raises to $2,000
I call.

I hadnt played with him long, he was ~25 years old, was french canadian and was wearing a baseball cap and earphones, seemed shrewd.

Thoughts?

[Ironside]

Looks fine till river, not sure what sort of hands he is raising with that would of called flop and turn, any 2 pair or sets would call with showdown value so he either has it, or turned hand into a bluff representing a.flush

[pleno1]

i prefer like 425-550 if we're gonna snap river, but everybody is turning decent showdowns into bluffs these days so he can easil y have AsJx or something. I guess I call but I'm not thrilled by any means.

[doubleup]

Button has straddled to $50


Thoughts?

I wouldn't play in a game with a button straddle (the dynamics are so different) and if I had to I wouldn't be limping in ep.

[bhoywonder]

I looked at the steaks again n had a nosebleed..couldn't read on..lol

[SuuPRlim]

Button has straddled to $50


Thoughts?

I wouldn't play in a game with a button straddle (the dynamics are so different) and if I had to I wouldn't be limping in ep.

this is kind of interesting topic actually. In the games I play regually at home missisipi straddles play so im pretty used to it, you're right though it does throw some pretty interesting dynamics up.

I think in games where you can missisipi straddle its DEFO +EV to straddle the button and as long as you have a weakish playing OTB i think the CO as well, I just can't work out in my head if it improves the game or not, it defo makes preflop more passive and as a result people make smaller but more frequent mistakes. I dont know

in this hand im MP after 2 limps, not advocating a fold surely?

[smashedagain]

you cant fold coz you played this hand to make a flush so take your medicine or take the money.

[pleno1]

timing tell on all 3 streets?

[doubleup]

in this hand im MP after 2 limps, not advocating a fold surely?

If I was straddling the button I would be raising limpers fairly wide - if you aren't going to do this what is the point in straddling?  If the btn isnt doing this obv limping ok.

I've only played with a btn straddle once, so have no idea really what ppl do in practice.

[DMorgan]

Probs find a fold on zee rivar

I think he has it almost always. He doesn't get to the river with much air, I don't think he ever has a straight and I don't think he raises sets for value.

The only hands that he should really ever call flop, call turn with here are  and  imo. With your turn sizing I think he should be folding all of his naked flush draws. Your hand looks sooooo like a set/KQ. I think if he's competent he's gunna realise that you're probably not folding any blank rivers with your flop and turn sizing (which I think are really good) so he'll just sigh and let it go on the turn with  .

Even if he still peels every flush draw combo on the turn turn you still have to fold river. Sometimes he'll have the old  but you are behind to most spade combos and I can't see him really having anything but a flush here

[Pinchop73]

This is a sick strange hand! Love it.

Your repping a really strong made hand. With the third bullet fired and the bet sizing as ir is, he's going to really struggle putting you on a flush draw I'd have thought. (But then at these stakes who knows what level of thinking is going on.)

With this in mind, I think there's a possibility for villain to have top or middle set here (very unlikely due to the limp pre obv but who knows) he could easily put your range on the lower set/two pair and actually be raising for value.

But he more than likely is on a decent flush eh. Maybe not nut flush, as I'd have thought he would have raised your flop bet. I don't think he'd fold  , implied odds are decent considering your bet sizes point towards a non flush hand.

Just my opinion anyway. Ta

[GreekStein]

Cool hand.

Does he call turn with a10s or 910s?

[GreekStein]

Not sure he calls those hands when we only have 2k back.

[smashedagain]

Not sure he calls those hands when we only have 2k back.

French canadian....the clues are there

[SuuPRlim]

in this hand im MP after 2 limps, not advocating a fold surely?

If I was straddling the button I would be raising limpers fairly wide - if you aren't going to do this what is the point in straddling?  If the btn isnt doing this obv limping ok.

I've only played with a btn straddle once, so have no idea really what ppl do in practice.

I'm not on the btn, I'm in MP after 2 people have limped with  ....