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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2011, 10:19:28 AM » |
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Not folding JJ with 16 bigs ever, I don't think. If they've got QQ+, it's just too bad.
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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2011, 10:35:11 AM » |
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i think the JJ is a clear fold here Alex and i have a sneaky feeling you may do too or you may not have posted this. maybe you picked up on something else (using your spidey senses rather than caro's tells) but the 3x 3bet just screams i got the goods and wanna play a big pot (by some one who is not a good player as you suspect). its an easy fold for me if i am honest but then i dont show the fold face up or post the hand for people ridicule me. hero folds get you deeper in tornies than hero calls do imo.
The AQ hand is a different kettle of fish and i probably play this for a number of implied reasons but cant say for fear of being lol'd at.
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2011, 01:30:43 PM » |
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No way am I passing JJ in this spot. Although I wouldnt' have been in this spot as I'd have called off with AQ in the previous hand against young suspicious internet youngster.
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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2011, 01:37:32 PM » |
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If it aids the debate, this is the villain in question...... 20 year old Gianni Marotta  |
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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2011, 01:45:27 PM » |
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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2011, 01:48:46 PM » |
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He's Italian? Both are a fist pump but looks how young and scared he looks! |
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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2011, 02:01:27 PM » |
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He's Italian? Both are a fist pump but looks how young and scared he looks! He looks a lot older than you do. |
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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2011, 02:04:25 PM » |
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He's Italian? Both are a fist pump but looks how young and scared he looks! He looks a lot older than you do. oww.......eye........jammed.........  |
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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2011, 02:20:19 PM » |
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I like to think I'd find a fold with the JJ given the circumstances you describe. It would very much come down to my gut feeling at the time.
I don't think I can pass the AQ hand earlier though. There's not a lot crushing AQ.
How far off the money were you at the time? Is villain exploiting the bubble?
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« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2011, 02:35:39 PM » |
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I think the AQ is fine, antes do make a difference if it makes our stack less than 12bbs adjusted then go ahead and jam it. If villain is comptent then he really shouldn't 3betting anything we beat as our range should be tight and we should be rarely raise/folding. Opening all pairs is a leak here, unless the table is very passive imo.
The JJ looks real close to me, I think qq and 1010 are pretty clear. Not going to be a big mistake either way long term.
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« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2011, 02:35:47 PM » |
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I like to think I'd find a fold with the JJ given the circumstances you describe. It would very much come down to my gut feeling at the time.
I don't think I can pass the AQ hand earlier though. There's not a lot crushing AQ.
How far off the money were you at the time? Is villain exploiting the bubble?
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« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2011, 02:36:35 PM » |
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yes antes of course in play. 1200/2400 with 300
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« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2011, 02:38:01 PM » |
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yes antes of course in play. 1200/2400 with 300
I do a jam pre then with your stack. |
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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2011, 02:58:43 PM » |
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Found villain on facebook and he told me he had AK suited the first hand.
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« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2011, 03:02:59 PM » |
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I think you definitely should have folded because I know what happened and I'm speaking with hindsight.  |
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