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« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2011, 11:30:54 PM »

I'm just pointing out the facts of life for regulars in a small player pool card-room

"terrible post" is a bit OTT

At no stage would I make any discussion that would collude against any player, regular or not, but it IS a fact in the small comps that non EV/Poker considerations can come into play. I tried to outline a few reasons why that might happen
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« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2011, 11:33:41 PM »

I blame the clique on blonde for people who won't do bubble savers
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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2011, 11:33:58 PM »

In small local comps, where the player pool is smallish to refuse a saver, especially if the only one to do so, is hard nosed I think
No problem if someone does, everyone has their own motivations

Also less hard nosed if you are there as a one off

but if you are regular, then I think the comment made earlier about non financial considerations/social aspects has merit.

tighty that is a terrible post!

that is the problem! You final table with 6/7 regs who are in a clique and expect to deal/saver

i once had a table where they were negotiating the deal for when  bust - which i pointed out  to the TD was collusion.

often times the "social players" are the problem, not people who dont want to do the saver

Agree 100%.

The clique aspect is one that makes live poker less enticing for others too.

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« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2011, 11:35:09 PM »

is solaris banned?

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Now you and George Bedi please stop poking him with a stick, play fair and we can all get along before I get arsey. Cheers

We'll be good
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« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2011, 11:36:18 PM »

I'm just pointing out the facts of life for regulars in a small player pool card-room

"terrible post" is a bit OTT

At no stage would I make any discussion that would collude against any player, regular or not, but it IS a fact in the small comps that non EV/Poker considerations can come into play. I tried to outline a few reasons why that might happen

only for the regs thou! DUCY?

if i play once a month do I have to join the "club"?

The point I was making in saying it was a "terrible post" - is that whatever the clique wants, in "their card room", they shouldnt have any opporunity whatsoever so suggested/bully/cajole any player into doing something they dont want to

So Im sorry but to not deal isnt hard nosed at all
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« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2011, 11:38:13 PM »

is solaris banned?

No

Now you and George Bedi please stop poking him with a stick, play fair and we can all get along before I get arsey. Cheers

he implied i was a retard on pm thats why i started to troll him


im sorry tighty

but it is entertaining Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2011, 11:39:15 PM »

I'm just pointing out the facts of life for regulars in a small player pool card-room

"terrible post" is a bit OTT

At no stage would I make any discussion that would collude against any player, regular or not, but it IS a fact in the small comps that non EV/Poker considerations can come into play. I tried to outline a few reasons why that might happen

only for the regs thou! DUCY?

if i play once a month do I have to join the "club"?

The point I was making in saying it was a "terrible post" - is that whatever the clique wants, in "their card room", they shouldnt have any opporunity whatsoever so suggested/bully/cajole any player into doing something they dont want to

So Im sorry but to not deal isnt hard nosed at all

I am not suggesting anybody should be bullied into anything

I was merely stating why for a regular other considerations can come into play. It might not be a popular view but it is true

There are many regulars where I play, but it is welcoming to occasional, new etc players too. Equally I understand a number of places are far harsher to those players than Luton is, even to the point where open collusion is tolerated

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« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2011, 11:39:58 PM »

I'm just pointing out the facts of life for regulars in a small player pool card-room

"terrible post" is a bit OTT

At no stage would I make any discussion that would collude against any player, regular or not, but it IS a fact in the small comps that non EV/Poker considerations can come into play. I tried to outline a few reasons why that might happen

only for the regs thou! DUCY?

if i play once a month do I have to join the "club"?

The point I was making in saying it was a "terrible post" - is that whatever the clique wants, in "their card room", they shouldnt have any opporunity whatsoever so suggested/bully/cajole any player into doing something they dont want to

So Im sorry but to not deal isnt hard nosed at all

A reg in Glasgow I know doesn't do deals...n doesn't do savers....I respect this....nobody complains....he calmly says no,when it is brought up...says he never deals....n that's it....move on.......nobody argues....he doesn't involve himself in the ensuing debate
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« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2011, 11:40:07 PM »

is solaris banned?

No

Now you and George Bedi please stop poking him with a stick, play fair and we can all get along before I get arsey. Cheers

he implied i was a retard on pm thats why i started to troll him


im sorry tighty

but it is entertaining Smiley

He's got a good read on you tbf
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« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2011, 11:42:43 PM »

is solaris banned?

No

Now you and George Bedi please stop poking him with a stick, play fair and we can all get along before I get arsey. Cheers

he implied i was a retard on pm thats why i started to troll him


im sorry tighty

but it is entertaining Smiley

He's got a good read on you tbf
yeah he uses his amazing logical powers
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« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2011, 11:52:13 PM »

I find a lot of the people who don't do savers are really forceful about their stance. They say stuff like "No deals when I'm around" or "I NEVER deal" with a very serious look. There is no need to be so determined about the I'm here on business attitude in a local weekend comp imo. You must be a very serious player and deffo not to be messed with. Overall thou I think it's good to be a popular winner amongst those you win from.
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« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2011, 12:01:30 AM »

So tbf a few mixed views....... lol along with a few in house arguments.
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« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2011, 12:09:57 AM »

I very very rarely will do any bubble deals. I also find that sometimes a situation arises that people then have it in for you after refusing a deal, and can often result in +EV spots for yourself.
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« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2011, 12:14:19 AM »

In the last ten years I must have made 100's of final tables and have never once said no deal. Deals have ranged from ten way chops without a hand being played to me taking first place and 3/4 splitting the rest. I do it because I think it's good karma . Ali Mallu has been in the same comps and he almost never deals. He has won 100's out right and no one thinks any worse of him. Horses for courses.

I like Paul and George because they are nice guys.
Don't know solaris, comes across as a twat like I do, but have to say I love his posts no matter is I strongly agree or disagree with them.

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« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2011, 08:06:10 AM »

how come the posts were deleted? mine were fine
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