UKIPT Brighton hard spot

[pleno1]

History: I've played very aggro so far after coming in 50 minutes later. I have built my stack up to 25k from the 15k starting and been winning alot of pots uncontested, I have most of the lower denomination chips on the table and have been 3betting and squeezing quite alot so far but not showing down too much.

Villain I've 3bet him 3 times, he has called every time and c/f flop once and other time he c/c flop, turn was check/check and river he value bet and I gave up. There are two other interesting hands to note. He riased pre vs a cockney geezer and pot, pot, pot it on AAK5J w/74 and showed the bluff. One hand against me he raises pre, I call from the big. Flop is AA2 check, he INSTA checks, turn is X check, he insta checks, river I check he bets 1/3 pot and I call and he has AK. He also makes it 3+x every hand.

Hand.. He raises to 1000 at 150/300 with two red chips (500) he has no 100 chips but lots of yellows (1k chips) folds to me in C/O (button has gone to toilet) and I 3bet to 3125 w/kjofolds to him and he calls after around 5/6 seconds.

Flop is KQ2r, he checks I bet 3875 and he kinda counts out his chips counting how much he would have if he calls and then eventually calls.

Turn is K not bringing a flush draw. We have 15.5k effective and there is around 14.7k in the pot. He checks, I think for around 6/7 seconds and check back.

River is a 5 and he thinks for around 7 seconds and announces all in.  I tank for a minute and call.

Thoughts?

[Coggy]

History: I've played very aggro so far after coming in 50 minutes later. I have built my stack up to 25k from the 15k starting and been winning alot of pots uncontested, I have most of the lower denomination chips on the table and have been 3betting and squeezing quite alot so far but not showing down too much.

Villain I've 3bet him 3 times, he has called every time and c/f flop once and other time he c/c flop, turn was check/check and river he value bet and I gave up. There are two other interesting hands to note. He riased pre vs a cockney geezer and pot, pot, pot it on AAK5J w/74 and showed the bluff. One hand against me he raises pre, I call from the big. Flop is AA2 check, he INSTA checks, turn is X check, he insta checks, river I check he bets 1/3 pot and I call and he has AK. He also makes it 3+x every hand.

Hand.. He raises to 1000 at 150/300 with two red chips (500) he has no 100 chips but lots of yellows (1k chips) folds to me in C/O (button has gone to toilet) and I 3bet to 3125 w/kjofolds to him and he calls after around 5/6 seconds.

Flop is KQ2r, he checks I bet 3875 and he kinda counts out his chips counting how much he would have if he calls and then eventually calls.

Turn is K not bringing a flush draw. We have 15.5k effective and there is around 14.7k in the pot. He checks, I think for around 6/7 seconds and check back.

River is a 5 and he thinks for around 7 seconds and announces all in.  I tank for a minute and call.

Thoughts?

U got ?

[pleno1]

 

[stato_1]

have you not checked back the turn to induce something like this? seems like a snap to me

all draws/weird OOP floats with gutshots have missed, theres only one k left he can have and even if he has it, hed almost certainly shove KT, K9s for value on the river, and as hes peeled a bunch of ur 3bets oop already he surely can credibly have these hands.

he can even shove AA for value here on the river imo, in the villains spot OTR even with AQ i think i prefer shoving than check/calling, (tbf from the description uve given im guessing he probably wont be doing that though)

[buzzharvey22]

pretty sure this guy would 4 bet you with jj qq and ak? if so you really have to call due to the very few hands he can realistically have that can beat you. sounds like hes the type of bloke to peel 3 bets with j10 a10 etc which may call the flop and bluff a missed draw on the river

[cambridgealex]

the way you've played it you have to snap the river here

[pleno1]

few people have told me it was a bad call so was unsure.

[cambridgealex]

few people have told me it was a bad call so was unsure.

cos they know you lost probs

[DMorgan]

Not a fan of the 3bet vs a guy that peels with the world and doesn't like folding

As played snap river. Your line induces a ton of bluffs and you beat some of his value range too. Given your history he can peel worse Kx hands than K9.

[pleno1]

Not a fan of the 3bet vs a guy that peels with the world and doesn't like folding

As played snap river. Your line induces a ton of bluffs and you beat some of his value range too. Given your history he can peel worse Kx hands than K9.

I think that if somebody is 3x'n alot and peeling wide and not c/r any flops and generally giving up then I should be 3betting pretty wide no?

Was my thought process at the time anyway.

[DMorgan]

Not a fan of the 3bet vs a guy that peels with the world and doesn't like folding

As played snap river. Your line induces a ton of bluffs and you beat some of his value range too. Given your history he can peel worse Kx hands than K9.

I think that if somebody is 3x'n alot and peeling wide and not c/r any flops and generally giving up then I should be 3betting pretty wide no?

Was my thought process at the time anyway.

Your description of the guy and the fact that he 3 barrelled the 74 doesn't make me think that he's giving up a lot. Obv if this is the case then yeah 3betting wide is good but seems like this guy wants to get tricky

[pleno1]

Also one thing to note. He got his chips from doubling up when he flopped a set on K62ss, this was after he showe bluff and he said afterwards "thats all u gotta do, show one bluff then wait for the nuts"

not sure how this influences our decision.

[MANTIS01]

few people have told me it was a bad call so was unsure.

How could it be deemed a bad call? Your image is very aggro and you've 3bet him a lot so he sees your range as v wide. In last 3bet hand vs him there was flop action, cc on turn, and he wins the pot with heat on river when you give up. Exactly the same as this hand. We also know from history his tendancy is to bet small 1/3 pot on river with strength and bet big on river with air. I don't know how this is bad and would abs snap the shove. Villain's stack size would be useful to know and I think 3bet pre is too big, but w/e you check turn for river value and hey presto.

[Eso Kral]

Is it just me or is the 3bet a bit big if were against a player who we hope to own in position on a regular basis and are happy to play post flop against?
I was thinking more like 2600-2750  and our c bet 3000-3100 as it does the same job vs this type of player?

[GreekStein]

I don't like pre.

Now snap