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« on: July 24, 2011, 09:37:57 PM »

Initial opener is a good player and has been opening liberally, 3 bettor is a fish but don't know much more, 4 bettor has fishy sharkscope and stats (27/13 but only 22 hands)

We are about 25/250 left


PokerStars Game #65018726537: Tournament #430020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (2500/5000) - 2011/07/24 21:29:35 WET [2011/07/24 16:29:35 ET]
Table '430020016 234' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: GO99APE (244519 in chips)
Seat 2: schwadda1976 (387814 in chips)
Seat 3: epitomised (217491 in chips)
Seat 4: Calvin32 (116719 in chips)
Seat 5: ediguadro (88245 in chips)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (325475 in chips)
Seat 7: gresuay (144852 in chips)
Seat 8: m.van damme (56604 in chips)
Seat 9: Finspb812 (213957 in chips)
GO99APE: posts the ante 500
schwadda1976: posts the ante 500
epitomised: posts the ante 500
Calvin32: posts the ante 500
ediguadro: posts the ante 500
MrRepsak: posts the ante 500
gresuay: posts the ante 500
m.van damme: posts the ante 500
Finspb812: posts the ante 500
epitomised: posts small blind 2500
Calvin32: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to epitomised [ ]
ediguadro: folds
MrRepsak: raises 5001 to 10001
gresuay: folds
m.van damme: raises 46103 to 56104 and is all-in
Finspb812: folds
GO99APE: raises 46103 to 102207
schwadda1976: folds
epitomised:
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2011, 09:45:26 PM »

i puke fold

puke some more

keep puking

close down screen

never watch hand review
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2011, 09:51:26 PM »

would not be folding QQ here im afraid
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2011, 10:43:43 PM »

Might fold tens and aq, but fist pump jamming jj ak+ here tbh
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2011, 11:27:13 PM »

we have 40bbs which is huge this late in teh WU

we are potentially at risk in 2 spots

people just arent randomly aggro on a sunday - i would need rock solid reads to be getting in 40bbs when we can no doubt just keep a steady chip up from here

Im not for 1 second saying its an easy fold and without thinking about it i probs snap jam - but meh - fold and keep chipping up imo
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2011, 11:45:11 PM »

What guy said.  Doesn't really matter how fishy the 3 and 4 bettors are stats wise I am pretty sure they aren't showing aggression without a hand at this point.  TBH I think call/fold are probably both okay but it is very marginal.  if I thought i had a big edge at the table i think I would just fold.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2011, 11:59:34 PM »

No way JJ is a fistpump here, I wouldn't click the fold button with QQ though.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2011, 11:59:53 PM »

fold!
what happened in the hand and the tourney - any good?
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 12:20:36 AM »

No way JJ is a fistpump here, I wouldn't click the fold button with QQ though.

wow ppl r nitty, if jj aint a fistpump what is ak?
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 12:24:03 AM »

Even I fold here
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 12:26:14 AM »

No way JJ is a fistpump here, I wouldn't click the fold button with QQ though.

wow ppl r nitty, if jj aint a fistpump what is ak?

I certainly don't think I'm a nit lol, just don't think JJ is a fistpump when a random min cold 4b vs 3b shove, AK isn't a fistpump either, doubt I fold AK though, I'd fold JJ without really solid reads.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 12:36:40 AM »

KK+ to get it in here for me.

Happily folding AK, puke folding QQ.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2011, 12:59:48 AM »

I know orig rsr and 3bettor r kinda imp here, but obv the 4bettors range is the most imp in this hand, i think even the dirtiest of nits shld be isolating/getting it in here with the top 4.2% of hands 99 aqs+ and we are a very decent 56% v that range.

Also as often the 4bettor who obv we have no fold equity against and along with OR can felt us- has some of his ace outs counterfitted by the other 2 in the hand, we can often be way over 60% fav with queens v mr 4b. OR also has a pretty wide range as does the fishy 3bettor imo.

Yeah i cld stove all 4 plyrs range 4 mway action but i gen dont think it influences me hugely here.

With jj we are a 48% dog v the 4b range so i guess i aint fistpumping neither, tho with the poss of counterfeits im often gambling here.

With ak we are actually a 43% dog which surprises me, i guess with more of our outs also counterfeited  im def more likely to pass ak here than jj for sure.

I guess i could look more closer at orig rsr and fishy 3bettors ranges but i def think they are much wider and i am def happily fistpumping qq in here.

Already expecting ppl 2 say 4btr does not have 99 and aqs in his range here, well imo he does and if he dsnt he shld have.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 01:02:30 AM »

QQ+/AK
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 01:03:43 AM »

I know orig rsr and 3bettor r kinda imp here, but obv the 4bettors range is the most imp in this hand, i think even the dirtiest of nits shld be isolating/getting it in here with the top 4.2% of hands 99 aqs+ and we are a very decent 56% v that range.

Also as often the 4bettor who obv we have no fold equity against and along with OR can felt us- has some of his ace outs counterfitted by the other 2 in the hand, we can often be way over 60% fav with queens v mr 4b. OR also has a pretty wide range as does the fishy 3bettor imo.

Yeah i cld stove all 4 plyrs range 4 mway action but i gen dont think it influences me hugely here.

With jj we are a 48% dog v the 4b range so i guess i aint fistpumping neither, tho with the poss of counterfeits im often gambling here.

With ak we are actually a 43% dog which surprises me, i guess with more of our outs also counterfeited  im def more likely to pass ak here than jj for sure.


I guess i could look more closer at orig rsr and fishy 3bettors ranges but i def think they are much wider and i am def happily fistpumping qq in here.

Already expecting ppl 2 say 4btr does not have 99 and aqs in his range here, well imo he does and if he dsnt he shld have.

Can you post your stove please.
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