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« Reply #525 on: August 19, 2011, 09:57:37 AM »

Pretty much spot on
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« Reply #526 on: August 19, 2011, 10:12:38 AM »

Here's a good article showing there's nothing new under the sun. (And it's an egalitarian 'everyone can read it' article rather than Kinboshi's elitist 'you have to be this rich to read it' NY Times link)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-looting-hits-britain-0
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« Reply #527 on: August 19, 2011, 10:43:16 AM »

Here's a good article showing there's nothing new under the sun. (And it's an egalitarian communist 'everyone can read it' article rather than Kinboshi's elitist 'you have to be this rich to read it' NY Times link)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-looting-hits-britain-0

FYP.

But the article is obv not wrong.
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« Reply #528 on: August 19, 2011, 10:52:45 AM »

in the mean time, on the other side of the pond;

http://news.yahoo.com/kansas-city-sets-youth-curfew-weekend-shooting-025521638.html
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« Reply #529 on: August 19, 2011, 10:58:07 AM »

Good articles.  I can honestly in over twenty years of following politics I have never come across such an ill thought out and counterproductive policy as this idea of evicting the families of those caught in these riots from their council houses.
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« Reply #530 on: August 19, 2011, 11:38:31 AM »

His government’s wrongheaded austerity policies have meant fewer public sector jobs and social services. ...  What Britain’s sputtering economy really needs is short-term stimulus, not more budget cutting. Unfortunately, there is no sign that Mr. Cameron has figured that out.

Ah, would that be the same sort of stimulus that has been an expensive failure everywhere else?
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« Reply #531 on: August 19, 2011, 11:43:37 AM »

His government’s wrongheaded austerity policies have meant fewer public sector jobs and social services. ...  What Britain’s sputtering economy really needs is short-term stimulus, not more budget cutting. Unfortunately, there is no sign that Mr. Cameron has figured that out.

Ah, would that be the same sort of stimulus that has been an expensive failure everywhere else?

That'd be the ones. The good thing about this economic crisis is that there are very easy answers to the whole thing....unfortunately no-one can agree on which easy answer will actually work.
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« Reply #532 on: August 19, 2011, 01:01:45 PM »


The NYTimes paywall is reall easy to get round - google "wrong-answers-in-britain NYtimes" and then click on the link from there and you can get in. Googleing any page description & NYT will get you into all their pages.
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« Reply #533 on: August 19, 2011, 01:03:52 PM »

Here's a good article showing there's nothing new under the sun. (And it's an egalitarian 'everyone can read it' article rather than Kinboshi's elitist 'you have to be this rich to read it' NY Times link)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-looting-hits-britain-0

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« Reply #534 on: August 19, 2011, 01:22:43 PM »


The NYTimes paywall is reall easy to get round - google "wrong-answers-in-britain NYtimes" and then click on the link from there and you can get in. Googleing any page description & NYT will get you into all their pages.

Can't believe you're advocating stealing the NY Times like that.

You may as well just throw a chair through their window and loot a copy.
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« Reply #535 on: August 19, 2011, 01:30:36 PM »

The paperback version of the out of print book mentioned in Andrew's article (Hooligan: A History of Respectable Fears) are being sold for £60. Somebody somewhere must be beginning work on a second edition.
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« Reply #536 on: August 19, 2011, 02:41:48 PM »


The NYTimes paywall is reall easy to get round - google "wrong-answers-in-britain NYtimes" and then click on the link from there and you can get in. Googleing any page description & NYT will get you into all their pages.

I think I got to the page from twitter so that's probably the same as going from google.

Anyway, Andrew's article was better.
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« Reply #537 on: August 19, 2011, 05:21:06 PM »

Knee-jerk, over-the-top sentences?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/19/riots-mother-looted-shorts-freed
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« Reply #538 on: August 19, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »


Her actions were only loosely connected with the riots, sentence was ridic.
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« Reply #539 on: December 09, 2011, 10:03:00 AM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/08/boy-riots-arrested-tv-cameras

Oh dear.
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