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« on: August 14, 2011, 04:37:10 AM »


Playing £1.50 / £3 NLHE deep online.
4 regs in the game, including me and the other person in this hand.
Villain is capable reg, who plays reasonably aggro pre and post flop.
Generally has a  hand with decent strength / equity if a pot gets to a decent size (i.e. very rarely has complete air), but is happy to get it in quite light in good spots.

Views me as tighter than average, particularly post flop.

2 folds to me in the C/O playing £595, I raise to £9 with  .
Folds to Villain in BB who calls out of £656.

Flop  , Check / Check.
Would c-bet  more than half of the time here, but check back sometimes to induce a bet on the turn / for deception, given I'm never too happy to play a huge pot in this spot, against a BB caller.

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Villain leads for £15, I call.
Villain's line confuses me somewhat, as I am likely to rep the King most of the time.
Pretty happy to call, and potentially call the river, assuming he bets again.

River 
Villain bets £42.
I raise to £123.
Villain reraises to £297.

I can have a lot of stuff that calls turn but misses on the river, therefore can be a bluff raise, but don't recall being caught bluff raising rivers against this villain with any frequency previously.
Pretty sure he can take this  line  with KQ/KJ/KT, 9x which can all call my raise, although he probably 3 bets KQ PF, and sometimes KJ.

Is the river a  fold?
Is raising the river given previous action, pretty standard?
Comments  on the rest of the  hand  welcomed.




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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 07:30:06 AM »


me in the C/O playing £595


Brags!

Anyway. Think the way youve played it till here is fine/standard. Would pretty much do exactly the same as u OTF similar percentages of the time.

For the reasons you said raising the river is def fine too, as played it's a pretty interesting spot because you can never really have a full house/straight, so you are very close to the top of your capped range. All boils down to reads on villain as to whether or not he knows this/will try to exploit here. Also means he can happily 3bet river for value with A9, 86, 55 etc.

I think the fact he sees you as on the tighter side postflop means I'm leaning towards a fold, because he wont be expecting you to flat the flop, then only flat the K turn and take off on the river as a bluff in this spot, cause by the river he really can have a bunch of pretty strong hands.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 10:16:04 AM »

I'm afraid I have to agree everything the stato has to say on that one. Except that playing 595 in a deep 1.50/3 game is a brag. Probs the buyin mate!

Fine up till river, close now, closer to a fold.

The only thing i have to add is what you said about villains turn lead confusing you. You said he views you as on the tightside post, so he might not expect you to rep the king ott.  He probs thinks you have thin showdown anyway as you didnt cbet- Aq, aj, small pairs etc so cant be certain youll feel the need to rep the king. So he's likely to lead the turn with all his value range.

The river is really interesting I think as stato said, you can't have a full house or straight really (bar k9) so it could be a bluff, but all your reads lead to it not being one. I fold.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2011, 11:16:00 AM »

Except that playing 595 in a deep 1.50/3 game is a brag. Probs the buyin mate!


Sigh... good read.
Bought in for £600. Still a brag though... only lost a fiver!!


The only thing i have to add is what you said about villains turn lead confusing you. You said he views you as on the tightside post, so he might not expect you to rep the king ott. 

I said tightish, not complete granite.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 11:54:58 AM »

Hurts me to agree with all that fat lad said.

Gibbles, when did sky introduce the deep games? Look like fun times :-)
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2011, 12:00:09 PM »

Stato made a good post. I agree with it.

Does your opponent know anything about you? Is he aware you're the richest man in Belper etc?
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2011, 12:12:17 PM »

Hurts me to agree with all that fat lad said.

Gibbles, when did sky introduce the deep games? Look like fun times :-)

Yeh I'm in for some of this shit. Gotta wait for the 28" monitor to arrive though Cheesy
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