Stars Sunday 100r preflop spot..

[Spraggs]

Villain is winning player.. 15/11 (9% EP pf raise)

EDIT: I was playing tight at the table for last 20 or so hands 3bet jamming once to UTG raiser

PokerStars Game #66016641648: Tournament #433010507, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (2000/4000) - 2011/08/14 22:36:23 WET [2011/08/14 17:36:23 ET]
Table '433010507 26' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: aaajack (250875 in chips)
Seat 2: 88DrugDealer (361177 in chips)
Seat 3: Spraggs (99862 in chips)
Seat 4: JackOrsen72 (171867 in chips)
Seat 5: swisstard (115130 in chips)
Seat 6: Palau777 (60812 in chips)
Seat 7: Cairns1987 (78249 in chips)
Seat 9: beldarion (93823 in chips)
aaajack: posts the ante 400
88DrugDealer: posts the ante 400
Spraggs: posts the ante 400
JackOrsen72: posts the ante 400
swisstard: posts the ante 400
Palau777: posts the ante 400
Cairns1987: posts the ante 400
beldarion: posts the ante 400
Palau777: posts small blind 2000
Cairns1987: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Spraggs [ ]
beldarion: raises 4000 to 8000
aaajack: folds
88DrugDealer: folds
Spraggs: ?

[George2Loose]

Shove

[MC]

Shove

+1

[muckthenuts]

Shoving seems like it could be slight spew to me. He won't call off 22 bigs with any range that has us in decent shape and i don't really feel like there's any strong reasoning for him to be light here too often.

[outragous76]

Shove

+1

[Spraggs]

Easy to think, i have two Tens and ~25BBs, i gta go all in. But he's a solid winning player, and his range opening that stack UTG is pretty narrow.

Me shoving over that is only going to get called by a range that crushes TT. Not to mention I have players behind me.

However... I got the TT with 25bbs, so I gta go allin.. right?

[George2Loose]

Easy to think, i have two Tens and ~25BBs, i gta go all in. But he's a solid winning player, and his range opening that stack UTG is pretty narrow.

Me shoving over that is only going to get called by a range that crushes TT. Not to mention I have players behind me.

However... I got the TT with 25bbs, so I gta go allin.. right?

If you know the answer then perhaps don't pose the question and fold?

[Dubai]

You don't mention your own image and stats in op?

I don't like shoving here but not for reasons stated, it's the nut worst line for me when I'm playing but can't comment on op without some insight

[Spraggs]

Easy to think, i have two Tens and ~25BBs, i gta go all in. But he's a solid winning player, and his range opening that stack UTG is pretty narrow.

Me shoving over that is only going to get called by a range that crushes TT. Not to mention I have players behind me.

However... I got the TT with 25bbs, so I gta go allin.. right?

If you know the answer then perhaps don't pose the question and fold?

Is there an answer? I want peoples views. There can be more than 1 right play. my opinion of his opening/calling range may be wrong.

[George2Loose]

Easy to think, i have two Tens and ~25BBs, i gta go all in. But he's a solid winning player, and his range opening that stack UTG is pretty narrow.

Me shoving over that is only going to get called by a range that crushes TT. Not to mention I have players behind me.

However... I got the TT with 25bbs, so I gta go allin.. right?

If you know the answer then perhaps don't pose the question and fold?

I mean you're probably flipping a lot of the time. Shove and embrace the variance

Is there an answer? I want peoples views. There can be more than 1 right play. my opinion of his opening/calling range may be wrong.

[Spraggs]

You don't mention your own image and stats in op?

I don't like shoving here but not for reasons stated, it's the nut worst line for me when I'm playing but can't comment on op without some insight

Oops forgot.. At the table I had been playing very tight. Not sure how i am perceived by villain. Most think LAG i guess.

[George2Loose]

You don't mention your own image and stats in op?

I don't like shoving here but not for reasons stated, it's the nut worst line for me when I'm playing but can't comment on op without some insight

3 bet call or peel then Dubai? Would be interested to hear your views. I just shovebot in these situations

[Dubai]

Depends on how I think he views me- but generally for me 3b calling is better than shoving and I can/do have a 3b folding range here so I'm more balanced than most- same for calling pre- I call a wider range here than 95% of regs, whether this is good or bad is debatable but if for example I'd been flatting pre a load then I'd have a range where flatting TT here wouldn't be face up, and for sure I could have Aces,Kings in same spot-

Before anyone does the maths and says shoving is not exploitable I'd add that's because we have been dealt a premium with a shallow stack and a raise in front- +ev doesn't mean the same as non exploitable

[action man]

he's defo opening wider than you think mate. All depends on his perception of you, 3b/call jam, induce jam from behind by peeling (if you have a peel range established) can all be argued depending on images

[Spraggs]

Most of the time in auto-pilot i'm 3bet/calling or shoving, depending on my image/metagame.

This time he had been playing tight, and I felt i'd find a better place to pile someone, or get it in good, and folded (such a nit i know).

What you saying bout 88/99?