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« on: August 17, 2011, 01:57:11 PM » |
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GP4 qualifier - we started with just 5 players so it's winner takes all I'm short stack having rivered the nut flush vs the then shortstacks Straight Flush http://www.holdemmanager.netNL Holdem $150(BB) Boss Game#2671005868 david ($6,367) arbboy ($19,713) nuclei ($11,879) playing pretty standard 20/12/29/6.3 pokercola1 ($12,041) calling a lot, 73/26/29/14.8
my image is a bit soft, I've raise folded a few times and raised pre and folded to pressure on the flop - in my defence I've missed a lot of flops
david posts (SB) $75 arbboy posts (BB) $150 Dealt to david K d  nuclei raises to $337 pokercola1 calls $337 david raises to $824 fold, nuclei raises to $1,611 fold, david calls $787 - error? I had folded to pressure a lot and given the winner takes all nature of this it felt like time to take a chanceFLOP ($3,709)    david bets $4,756 (AI) |
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 02:06:59 PM » |
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i fold to the 4bet
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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cambridgealex
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 02:44:08 PM » |
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hh format bit too tilty to study thoroughly
something seems bad though!
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david3103
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 02:55:06 PM » |
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hh format bit too tilty to study thoroughly
something seems bad though!
which bit? and why? and WWYD? |
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« Last Edit: August 17, 2011, 02:57:42 PM by david3103 »
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 02:57:36 PM » |
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Yeah definitely fold to the 4bet pre. For the flop shove to be profitable I would want some fold equity on my side. I suppose the key question is whether you can get JJ/QQ/KK to fold and I suppose you can as it is a fairly ugly board for them except KK with  but all that said i probably c/f and move on. You still have 30bb and plenty of time but you obviously wouldn't have got yourself in this problem if you hadn't called the 4bet in the first place. A decent general rule is to pretty much never call a 4bet. |
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david3103
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 02:58:50 PM » |
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Yeah definitely fold to the 4bet pre. For the river shove to be profitable I would want some fold equity on my side. I suppose the key question is whether you can get JJ/QQ/KK to fold and I suppose and it is a fairly ugly board for them except KK with . Shoved on the flop... |
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cambridgealex
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 03:01:22 PM » |
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hh format bit too tilty to study thoroughly
something seems bad though!
which bit? and why? and WWYD? its just pretty hard to work out whats going on. it looks like youve 3b too small and you shouldve folded to the 4bet. |
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redarmi
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 03:03:16 PM » |
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Yeah definitely fold to the 4bet pre. For the river shove to be profitable I would want some fold equity on my side. I suppose the key question is whether you can get JJ/QQ/KK to fold and I suppose and it is a fairly ugly board for them except KK with . Shoved on the flop... yes that was what i meant.....I have modified original post to clarify a bit more. |
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Skippy
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 03:25:44 PM » |
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its just pretty hard to work out whats going on.
Not knowing what is going on is a important part of the DTD online poker experience. |
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Skippy
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 03:29:07 PM » |
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As for the hand, I'd probably just call out of the small blind.
You can't just call the 4-bet, you have to jam or fold. Probably fold.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 03:32:22 PM » |
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Imo I defo 3 bet bigger here to 1150ish as the sizing of your 3bet means at best your bringing both players along and playing oop with QKo, as played i fold to the 4bet and would do with my 3bet sizing in this spot as well.
You still have enough left to double through in a better spot and only be 2500 behind the average.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 03:56:19 PM » |
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I just flat pre. Even short handed I don't want to be 3 betting oop for what is going to be a fair chunk of my stack.
If nuclei is who I think it is then you should just let her have all your chips because she's lovely.
Flop shove is fine. You're still in the rebuy period so worth a shot at a more playable stack.
Also not wanting to affect DTDs numbers but playing a winner takes all comp is a bad idea.
These comps are tremendous value thanks to the terrible players who seem to be in a rush to knock each other out.
Unless there's at least 2 seats you're not getting any help from anywhere and that's where the value is.
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Eso Kral
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2011, 04:02:50 PM » |
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This ^ And Arboy does or used to play about 150-200 stt's per day so game selection ftw
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redarmi
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 04:07:13 PM » |
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This ^ And Arboy does or used to play about 150-200 stt's per day so game selection ftw
Whilst this is true he is a breakeven player in the games at best. Makes most of his money from rb and rake races etc. Bit like most SNG pros really. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 04:18:23 PM » |
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Think flatting, folding and 3betting pre are all acceptable but I tend to avoid squeezing in spots like this in these DTD sats because you get peeled alot ( esp with small 3bet size) and I don't really want to be betting out blindly into one or two players with that stack size. So prob mix between flat and occasionally I might just fold pre.
As played fold to the 4bet but flop jam is probably mandatory once you get there.
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