Dem Aces, an elderly gentleman and a paired board: A short story of pain.

[cambridgealex]

You guessed it. It's 1/2 live cash.

Kurt (v rocky reg) iso's an EP fish limper to £15 I 3bet   to £47 from the small blind. Said limper cold calls ldo. Kurt calls.

Flop (£143)

I bet £85. The elderly gentleman calls £85......with an additional £100 on top. Kurt folds.

We? Have £460 behind. I called the £100 raise, leaving me with £360.

Turn (£503)

I check, villain instantly slides out his stack of ponys. It's £200 to me. Blurgh. Wwyd?

Reads: This man is very fishy, spewy, likes to raise to see where he's at. Confesses to not knowing what he'd doing. He'd 100% limp cold call £47 with KTss QTss etc perhaps as low as T7ss. As well as 22 ofc.

I thought on the flop he'd be raising sometimes with 88, 99 to see where he was at. But when he snap bets the turn I elimated those hands and just figured he had to have me beat and I folded.

On the one hand, it's an old guy, raising a TT2 flop in a 3way, 3bet pot then fearlessly betting a K turn = Easy fold. On the other, it's a spewy guy with lots of money who confesses to not knowing what he's doing and likes to raise for information = Happy call. Arghhhh...

[redarmi]

Once he bets the turn I am snap folding here.  When you say he is old how old???  >75 and I would probably fold the flop tbh >60 but <75 I call and fold turn.  Age is normally a massive tell in these games.

[cambridgealex]

Once he bets the turn I am snap folding here.  When you say he is old how old???  >75 and I would probably fold the flop tbh >60 but <75 I call and fold turn.  Age is normally a massive tell in these games.

I dunno, old is old! >30 = old!

Probably in his 60s.

I agree age is everything.

[Pinchop73]

I dunno, old is old! >30 = old!

Sigh.

Is this the guy who called the river with two pair on a 4 heart board to find out he was winning, announcing 'I thought I was giving you £105'?

If so I fold.

[SuuPRlim]

fyl wat a complete clusterfuck i have no idea wat to do or what i would even do i wouldn't be surprised if I ended up making an almost random decision lol

[david3103]

Once he bets the turn I am snap folding here.  When you say he is old how old???  >75 and I would probably fold the flop tbh >60 but <75 I call and fold turn.  Age is normally a massive tell in these games.

I dunno, old is old! >30 = old!

Probably in his 60s.

I agree age is everything.

wtf?!

[EvilPie]

I'm not folding this ever.

If he's got the ten good luck to him.

[cambridgealex]

I'm not folding this ever.

If he's got the ten good luck to him.

Lol be more ridiculous

[boldie]

I'm not folding this ever.

If he's got the ten good luck to him.

Yeah this, from your descriptions and other thread, the guy clearly doesn't take you seriously and knows he can pwn you completely by getting you to fold the better hand.


Just get them all in now, lose to 10-6, and complain about how bad the guy is for calling pre.

[cambridgealex]

Fwiw this hand happened before he showed the kt bluff.

[boldie]

Fwiw this hand happened before he showed the kt bluff.

OK, think it does matter TBH. Tough spot, against an old old guy (so not 30+ but 60+) I get out of the way here unless I gt the feeling he's "trying to teach you kids a lesson" which some of these guys do.

[jakally]

The  gentleman in question is 57, and well known for making plays which seem a  little random.

I think, having seen him play for a  few hours last night (i.e. info you didn't necessarily have at the time), that he is unlikely to raise flop, then check turn...... once he has taken the betting lead he likes  to keep it irrespective of the board changing significantly.
Therefore, once you call his flop raise, you probably have to get it in on the turn, or at least call turn, call river.

Don't think it's a  terrible fold, just a  better one if made  one street earlier.

[Pinchop73]

Also it might be worth mentioning that he whimsically called jakally's 75bb turn bet and his 100bb river bet on a paired T high board. Got shown a fh obv.

When he bets out or raises then...

EDIT: jakally itt

[stato_1]

Firstly 57 is not elderly.

Secondly I had no idea Jakally was 57.

[david3103]

Firstly 57 is a gentleman's prime

Secondly I had no idea Jakally was 57.

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