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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2011, 07:41:55 PM »

i think i'd lead against a non-reg, most likely lead/3b the flop.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2011, 07:52:26 PM »

i think i'd lead against a non-reg, most likely lead/3b the flop.

meh if we lead/ 3bet with these stacks he's more likely to get the 4bet jam in rather than us if we c/r. I mean we gonna be decent equity vs a lot of the hands he gets in, but id still rather be c/r to pull the 4ball out OTF
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2011, 03:41:05 PM »

completely forgot i made this thread.

I was also going to say to the first couple of posters that yes, it looks like an obvious chk/raise flop spot, but you forgot to think about what our opponent may do after that.

As said by others if he 3bets the flop we can only jam, we're not flatting or folding, and this is why i posted the hand. It can seem a bit bad at times to get it in for a Quadrillion BBs with a J hi FD and gutter.

Against this opponent i do believe the best play is to 4bet jam if he 3bets the flop, just because he seemed the kind to do stupid stuff like that.

Against stronger opponents and regs i will mix it up, sometimes look to get it in on flop, sometimes lead/3b sometimes chk/call lead any turn.

For those results orientated he had JJ and held (proving that he was pretty loose/horrible) my equity vs an overpair is huge, and even vs set of 3's taking one of my heart outs away im still only 2to1(ish) so i don't think getting it in on the flop provided you get folds vs the 2bet and occasionally vs the 4bet is ever ever bad.

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2011, 03:42:26 PM »

Oh, also im suprised nobody mentioned the added equity for the knockout. Which makes even more of a case of not doing anything but chk/r/4b the flop.
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2011, 04:43:09 PM »

we might very well still stack him (+$50 bounty KO)


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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2011, 04:52:43 PM »

haha sorry missed that. defo 1/2 point.
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2011, 12:09:26 AM »

completely forgot i made this thread.

I was also going to say to the first couple of posters that yes, it looks like an obvious chk/raise flop spot, but you forgot to think about what our opponent may do after that.

As said by others if he 3bets the flop we can only jam, we're not flatting or folding, and this is why i posted the hand. It can seem a bit bad at times to get it in for a Quadrillion BBs with a J hi FD and gutter.

Against this opponent i do believe the best play is to 4bet jam if he 3bets the flop, just because he seemed the kind to do stupid stuff like that.

Against stronger opponents and regs i will mix it up, sometimes look to get it in on flop, sometimes lead/3b sometimes chk/call lead any turn.

For those results orientated he had JJ and held (proving that he was pretty loose/horrible) my equity vs an overpair is huge, and even vs set of 3's taking one of my heart outs away im still only 2to1(ish) so i don't think getting it in on the flop provided you get folds vs the 2bet and occasionally vs the 4bet is ever ever bad.



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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2011, 08:02:05 PM »

what seems like a level to u?
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2011, 05:02:36 AM »

general tone fella.
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2011, 03:07:00 PM »


I was also going to say to the first couple of posters that yes, it looks like an obvious chk/raise flop spot, but you forgot to think about what our opponent may do after that.

I didn't forget, just dont expect to get 3bet hardly ever on the flop really
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2011, 01:09:31 PM »

I definately just call the flop....

I agree we have good equity in the hand versus 97% of villains holdings and we are usually never that far behind when getting it all in in this situation.

That being said, there is about 320 chips in the middle after his bet on the flop and we are playing close to 4000 effective @ 20/40 blinds... If you love coinflips you can get it in but you are sacrificing any kind of edge you may have in doing so. Bad players may also spazztard out with / which we don't do quite as well against (30/70).
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