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« on: September 16, 2011, 07:41:28 PM » |
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Anyone just see that! 19.26 in the 200 metres! Fucking hell, 2nd fastest 200m ever, beat Michael Johnson's old record time.
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 08:15:13 PM » |
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Yeh amazing. Jamaica rule sprinting at the mo.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 08:53:01 PM » |
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If that clocking is correct (allowing for wind etc.) then it's just symptomatic of what's wrong with athletics at elite level. The Jamaican's are quite obviously as chemically enhanced as any group of international athletes fin the history of the sport. To think that MJ would be eating dust from Blake is too too silly! They've probably got 12yr olds in a lab who'd walk into our 4X100 squad. Carl Lewis will be at home griding his teeth!
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 09:01:55 PM » |
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If that clocking is correct (allowing for wind etc.) then it's just symptomatic of what's wrong with athletics at elite level. The Jamaican's are quite obviously as chemically enhanced as any group of international athletes fin the history of the sport. To think that MJ would be eating dust from Blake is too too silly! They've probably got 12yr olds in a lab who'd walk into our 4X100 squad. Carl Lewis will be at home griding his teeth!
lol, this is just silly. Standards in all sports are improving all the time. MJ was incredible but there will come a time when all elite athletes are running faster than he could. Chemically enhanced?? I´m not sure I understand. You mean good nutrition? |
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 09:41:53 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 10:37:57 AM » |
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Ridiculous
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 10:43:43 AM » |
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If that clocking is correct (allowing for wind etc.) then it's just symptomatic of what's wrong with athletics at elite level. The Jamaican's are quite obviously as chemically enhanced as any group of international athletes fin the history of the sport. To think that MJ would be eating dust from Blake is too too silly! They've probably got 12yr olds in a lab who'd walk into our 4X100 squad. Carl Lewis will be at home griding his teeth!
lol, this is just silly. Standards in all sports are improving all the time. MJ was incredible but there will come a time when all elite athletes are running faster than he could. Chemically enhanced?? I´m not sure I understand. You mean good nutrition? Silly? I don't think so. The evidence speaks for itself when u look through the all-time list of sprinters and the times posted and then delete the ones who've been guilty of cheating. The Jamaican's (along with the Chinese) have a notoriously lame dope testing programme. I'm guessin u'd have said the same prior to the expose involving the likes of Drummond/Mitchell/Gatlin/Montgomery/ and half a dozen second string Jamaicans (men and women). I'm not naive enough to expect athletes to perform clean but that doesn't mean I have to swallow the garbage explanations they give for 'great' performances surrounding the likes of Marion Jones (ie, 'better' training regimes and faster tracks...I'm guessin u'd have said my attitudes to Marion Jones' performances were 'silly' too!). The Jamaican atheletes have cut their PB's in just the same fashion that Flo Jo did...one year they're an also-ran the next they're chopping over half a second off their PB's and breaking world records for fun. IMO anyone who genuinely believes that Bolt et al are clean is in need of a reality check. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 10:53:12 AM » |
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Take the time with a pinch of salt- Walter Dix ain't in 19.53 shape
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BrumBilly
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 10:59:11 AM » |
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I hear ya, we've had faulty timings in the past which is why I questioned it in my first reply. Dix is no Tyson Gay!
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 11:04:38 AM » |
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Dix is now 4th fastest 200m runner ever!
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 11:27:50 AM » |
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haha when my brother told me the time he ran I had to laugh...I'd still back Fredricks, MJ, Crawford, Lewis, Marsh, Greene, Boldon and a whole bunch of others against Dix!! Athletics is my favourite sport but the thing's been seriously corrupted from way back!!
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 11:33:59 AM » |
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If that clocking is correct (allowing for wind etc.) then it's just symptomatic of what's wrong with athletics at elite level. The Jamaican's are quite obviously as chemically enhanced as any group of international athletes fin the history of the sport. To think that MJ would be eating dust from Blake is too too silly! They've probably got 12yr olds in a lab who'd walk into our 4X100 squad. Carl Lewis will be at home griding his teeth!
lol, this is just silly. Standards in all sports are improving all the time. MJ was incredible but there will come a time when all elite athletes are running faster than he could. Chemically enhanced?? I´m not sure I understand. You mean good nutrition? Silly? I don't think so. The evidence speaks for itself when u look through the all-time list of sprinters and the times posted and then delete the ones who've been guilty of cheating. The Jamaican's (along with the Chinese) have a notoriously lame dope testing programme. I'm guessin u'd have said the same prior to the expose involving the likes of Drummond/Mitchell/Gatlin/Montgomery/ and half a dozen second string Jamaicans (men and women). I'm not naive enough to expect athletes to perform clean but that doesn't mean I have to swallow the garbage explanations they give for 'great' performances surrounding the likes of Marion Jones (ie, 'better' training regimes and faster tracks...I'm guessin u'd have said my attitudes to Marion Jones' performances were 'silly' too!). The Jamaican atheletes have cut their PB's in just the same fashion that Flo Jo did...one year they're an also-ran the next they're chopping over half a second off their PB's and breaking world records for fun. IMO anyone who genuinely believes that Bolt et al are clean is in need of a reality check. Not a great post from me last night and I´m sure you have a greater knowledge of athletics than I do but surely we should expect average performance year on year to improve in all sports. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 11:37:42 AM » |
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Bolt is clean, surely if there is one athlete who is clean it has to be Bolt?
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 05:09:17 PM » |
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Bolt clean? Not a chance IMO...nothing abot his performances/improvement looks clean (Assuming he's clean, what time would he run 'dirty' bearing in mind so many of the top times have been discredited over the years,,,times he's already made look shockingly ordinary!)...best thing he can do is rinse the game for the next Olympics and World Champs then retire before he messes up his masking routine or get grassed on like Marion Jones.
I hope he is clean BUT I can't bring myself to really believe it. In a 'bullet to the brain test' if I was wrong in answering 'clean' v 'dirty' I'd have to say he was dirty (along with the majority of elite performers...sad but that's where my vote would be goin.) Just my opinion after seeing the sport I LOVE badly smeared by a whole host of 'all time greats'.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 05:41:34 PM » |
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Bolt clean? Not a chance IMO...nothing abot his performances/improvement looks clean
He was running 20.13 when 16 years old and 19.93 when he was 18. Given those times and his progression since, when would you estimate he started taking drugs? |
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