Violence against burglars

[Dewi_cool]

are you in Jail?

[EvilPie]

I have a 6ft fence all the way around my garden and a 6ft iron gate.

I've got a hi tech burglar alarm and security windows and doors all round.

There's also a large snarling rottweiler who spends a lot of the time at the gate barking and growling at passers by.

If anyone gets past that lot I'm sure going to try stopping them.

[ScottMGee]

Lol at the police's we can only get him for handling stolen goods and thats a caution.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/handling/

Cps sentencing guidelines appear to suggest Community order through to 12 weeks inside.

As for the Cash Convertors guy - I would be interested to see if you could get a Freedom of Information Act request from the police about how many times they had found stolen goods in there - sure Data Protection would not allow the information but would be interesting info.

[Dingdell]

Lol at the police's we can only get him for handling stolen goods and thats a caution.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/handling/

Cps sentencing guidelines appear to suggest Community order through to 12 weeks inside.

As for the Cash Convertors guy - I would be interested to see if you could get a Freedom of Information Act request from the police about how many times they had found stolen goods in there - sure Data Protection would not allow the information but would be interesting info.

I know I thought it was frustrating but I think they took into account it was his first offence etc etc. Not sure what happened to the £7 though - I think he got to keep it!

TBH I have great faith in the justice system here in the UK, I just hope it dawns on this individual that crime only pays £7 which is a rubbish hourly rate. I would have paid him more than that to come round and mow the lawn!

[Bongo]

Do you think the knife he left behind was worth more or less than £7?

[henrik777]

The courts are no deterrent. If they started to die on a frequent basis it would mean a decline in this type of crime for 2 reasons.

1. Many burglars are serial burglars. Each dead scumbag means far less crime.

2. The threat of death becomes an increasing deterrent as the number dead rises.

Would i do it ? Don't know. Do i think it's bad when someone else does it ? No. It's a great benefit to society imo.

Sandy

[Dingdell]

Do you think the knife he left behind was worth more or less than £7?

Lol @ -ve result!

[ScottMGee]

know I thought it was frustrating but I think they took into account it was his first offence etc etc.

I love the first offence argument.

The police detection rate for all recorded crimes has fallen to an all time low of only 24%, according to Home Office figures published today.
While the annual police recorded crime figures show that the clear-up rate for burglary has fallen to the lowest ever level of only 12%, the statistics also show a worrying four point decline in detection rates for violent offences in the past year.

Given the clear up rate of 12%, this is statistically this guy's 8th burglary!

Also, does anyone think that a caution is any deterrent for a burglar.

All that happens is that he has learnt not to sell the goods in Cash Converters in his home town. Next time he will simply sell them in the pub, or another town.

[highmile]

One of my uncles who owned a restaurant was put in prison because when someone tried to do a runner, another family member stepped infront of the entrance. The 'runner' then started beating up his person until my uncle came from the kitchen with a knife and stabbed the guy. To me seems like fair game, but not to the law.

Wouldn't it have been simpler to let him go rather than escalate to a stage of stabbing? Did the family member do more than step in the way? - probably. And is the remedy to stab someone?

I hope he got a long sentance.

[highmile]

One of my uncles who owned a restaurant was put in prison because when someone tried to do a runner, another family member stepped infront of the entrance. The 'runner' then started beating up his person until my uncle came from the kitchen with a knife and stabbed the guy. To me seems like fair game, but not to the law.

Wouldn't it have been simpler to let him go rather than escalate to a stage of stabbing? Did the family member do more than step in the way? - probably. And is the remedy to stab someone?

I hope he got a long sentance.

Actually makes a bit of sense....Years ago I went to Corfu, fantastic place at the time, but encountered locals who thought that 'English Meat' was there's to abuse. I stepped in once, in defence of an English young lady that was obviously not interested in the advances of 'Spiros' and was warned that 'they will stab you before fighting you'

Unfortunately we have let this 'culture' into our society and the results are only too clear.

[thetank]

Yeah, we were quite the green and pleasant land before the Corfuffians came along.

[Dingdell]

My Dad has told me that he has an air rifle by his bed and has done for years just in case. Until a few years ago he lived in the country in my great Aunts house and she was the subject of a very violent burglary where they tied her up and left her while they nicked all her jewellery. She never got over it.

My Dad recently took advice from a solicitor who told him it was ok to use his air rifle as long as they were shot facing him and not in the back! Not sure how the law would really look at this.....

[outragous76]

air rifle might tickle them to death?

 id hope that they didnt know their guns and it made them run

[GreekStein]

One of my uncles who owned a restaurant was put in prison because when someone tried to do a runner, another family member stepped infront of the entrance. The 'runner' then started beating up his person until my uncle came from the kitchen with a knife and stabbed the guy. To me seems like fair game, but not to the law.

Wouldn't it have been simpler to let him go rather than escalate to a stage of stabbing? Did the family member do more than step in the way? - probably. And is the remedy to stab someone?

I hope he got a long sentance.

Actually makes a bit of sense....Years ago I went to Corfu, fantastic place at the time, but encountered locals who thought that 'English Meat' was there's to abuse. I stepped in once, in defence of an English young lady that was obviously not interested in the advances of 'Spiros' and was warned that 'they will stab you before fighting you'

Unfortunately we have let this 'culture' into our society and the results are only too clear.

Is 'highmile' the name of the dreamworld you live in? You do realise English tourists are amongst the most disrespectful holidaymakers there are?

He didn't get a long sentence* fwiw. This was many many years ago now though - I think my uncle served 18 months, possibly 12. The other uncle simply stepped infront of the door and refused to move until he was being beaten up. You see in Greece and Cyprus, we don't have many scumbags like this. People don't do runners without payin so to the old school greek generation this would have been fair game. It's why if you live in Greece and Cyprus you will feel safe and if you live in England you have to be very careful in many places.

[snoopy1239]

Firstly, I would shit my pants. Secondly I would ask the Mrs. to ring 999. Then I would shout 'Oy' down the stairs and hope they go away. If that doesn't work, I'd hold a baseball bat in hand and cower in bedroom until they've left / come into the bedroom and I have to defend myself. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't go for a head shot, maybe leg, then try and leg it out the house, popping the alarm on along the way. Meanwhile, I'd try to justify to the Mrs. as to why I'm so frightened when I'm meant to be protecting her and make a last ditch attempt to save face. Finally, I'd shit myself again.

Don't think anyone's that bothered about the xbox getting nicked; it's the thought that they might be a psycho that's more disconcerting.