Diary of a professional punter

[Girgy85]

Great example this morning of how hard it is to get on these days.  I opened a fresh Victor Chandler account last Thursday.  Since then I have been very conservative on it only ever betting anything to win a couple of hundred or a monkey at most.  Won a grand in first four days of having the account and it was shut this morning when I went to log in.

do u get your money back from this account after they close it?

[StuartHopkin]

At what point do they look to close your account?

Is this just the smaller firms?

I am purely using PPower at the moment and I am getting a little concerned as I seem to be doing pretty well over the past couple of months.

very thinly veiled brag there

[redarmi]

Great example this morning of how hard it is to get on these days.  I opened a fresh Victor Chandler account last Thursday.  Since then I have been very conservative on it only ever betting anything to win a couple of hundred or a monkey at most.  Won a grand in first four days of having the account and it was shut this morning when I went to log in.

do u get your money back from this account after they close it?

Girgy - Yeah they just automatically send it back to you.

Stu - Depends.  Some will last for ages and you can be winning and it is like they don't notice. Other firms, like VC, will happily shut you after a couple of days if they don't like the look of you.  I have never had an account at Paddy Power that lasted very long tbh but they are definitely not the worst firm.

[adnmdv]

The only bookmakers really who won't shut you down if they think you are a winner are those in Asia, but that's only really an option if you're betting Asian Handicaps/OUs.

[redarmi]

Yes and the Asian handicap prices are the most accurate prices anywhere in the world these days.  Even though they only bet to 2-3% they are hard to beat by more than 3-4% and realistically you will normally be able to get a better price elsewhere anyway.  For a couple of years I operated exclusively in that market and it taught me so much about having to constantly evolve and stay ahead of the game.  Obviously pinnacle work to a similar model and won't boot you for winning or the exchanges although they have their own penalties now.  The way I see it now is that it is easier and more rewarding to keep doing the dance and finding new people to open accounts for me than it is to beat the bookies that will take your money.  One thing to admire about those firms that will take a bet (except the exchanges) is that they are all owned or run by people who are not scared to take a huge position when they think it is warranted and some of them are amongst the worlds biggest punters.

[Karabiner]

Great example this morning of how hard it is to get on these days.  I opened a fresh Victor Chandler account last Thursday.  Since then I have been very conservative on it only ever betting anything to win a couple of hundred or a monkey at most.  Won a grand in first four days of having the account and it was shut this morning when I went to log in.

Exactly the same thing happened to me a few weeks back with VC.

Spoilsports are pretty mingy too, I tried to bet a 12/1 shot the other day and they would only let me have £13.50 on, and that's an account I'm behind on!

[EvilPie]

I won 4 quid on Sky the other day.

Expecting to be closed down pretty soon tbh.

[Dubai]

Asked for £400 with Stan James on a football score. Was told could have £50, asked for manager- his words

"Mr Shallow youre beating us for around about £8k in the 3 years u have had this account (had stan james account when was 17 ffs so god knows what he on about)- we choose not to take you on"

so i ask for a breakdown of my winnings

"Phil Mickleson to win Masters 1k @12s in 2010- Nebuchadnezzar 1kew @4s in Chief Ramsbottom Trophy"

so one is a bloody golf major, and the other a dog I OWN who i bet regardless- i kindly pointed out that without them bets im down 9k- close my account and open one in gfs name. So pointless and results orientated thinking without looking at detail

[Biddy 62]

Donny races other week, wanted £80 on an 11/8 shot, bookmaker said he'd let me have £40 on. I declined and got 13/10 with somebody else.

[tikay]

I won 4 quid on Sky the other day.

Expecting to be closed down pretty soon tbh.

No, you'll be OK, you keep the money in house by spunking it off on the Omaha cash Tables. Fits very nicely with our business model.

[The Camel]

Donny races other week, wanted £80 on an 11/8 shot, bookmaker said he'd let me have £40 on. I declined and got 13/10 with somebody else.

11/8 is better than 13/10.

[tikay]

Donny races other week, wanted £80 on an 11/8 shot, bookmaker said he'd let me have £40 on. I declined and got 13/10 with somebody else.

11/8 is better than 13/10.

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[doubleup]

Great example this morning of how hard it is to get on these days.  I opened a fresh Victor Chandler account last Thursday.  Since then I have been very conservative on it only ever betting anything to win a couple of hundred or a monkey at most.  Won a grand in first four days of having the account and it was shut this morning when I went to log in.

Exactly the same thing happened to me a few weeks back with VC.

Spoilsports are pretty mingy too, I tried to bet a 12/1 shot the other day and they would only let me have £13.50 on, and that's an account I'm behind on!

I win the priize - I opened a VC account and have been unable to deposit any money with which to bet.....

[TightEnd]

so where do people get on in size these days?

or is it all done by runners/spreading around various accounts etc?

[Girgy85]

Donny races other week, wanted £80 on an 11/8 shot, bookmaker said he'd let me have £40 on. I declined and got 13/10 with somebody else.

11/8 is better than 13/10.

!

£80 on 13/10 >>>>>>>> £40 on 11/8