Fit blondes in Berlin

[outragous76]

Booked!

[kinboshi]

Longest run to date last night

15.25k

Boom

Nice.  When you looking to do your first half-marathon?

Regged for the Leeds one 13th May

Oioi!

Drinkies?

Sunday Tea?

FYP

[StuartHopkin]

Longest run to date last night

15.25k

Boom

Nice.  When you looking to do your first half-marathon?

Regged for the Leeds one 13th May

Oioi!

Drinkies?

Sunday Tea?

FYP

Sigh

[kinboshi]

Only joshing mate.  Still love you really.

[StuartHopkin]

Only joshing mate.  Still love you really.

Its all good

Well its not

I cant walk today, I woke up in the night and thought I had broken both my knees!

Advice please Kin/Gat;

Can you get running shoes specially made?
I have fat/wide feet, always have. And the inside edge of both feet is getting rubbed to pieces as I run and its obv only going to get worse.
Anything I can do?

[craigbetts]

Only joshing mate.  Still love you really.

Its all good

Well its not

I cant walk today, I woke up in the night and thought I had broken both my knees!

Advice please Kin/Gat;

Can you get running shoes specially made?
I have fat/wide feet, always have. And the inside edge of both feet is getting rubbed to pieces as I run and its obv only going to get worse.
Anything I can do?

Running shoes are available in a number of widths, if you go to a specialist running shop they will measure your feet.... and maybe pop you on a treadmill and look at your running style to see how your foot strikes and what type of shoe to recommend. That said, you can always buy last years models which will be half the price of this years!

[kinboshi]

Only joshing mate.  Still love you really.

Its all good

Well its not

I cant walk today, I woke up in the night and thought I had broken both my knees!

Advice please Kin/Gat;

Can you get running shoes specially made?
I have fat/wide feet, always have. And the inside edge of both feet is getting rubbed to pieces as I run and its obv only going to get worse.
Anything I can do?

Running shoes are available in a number of widths, if you go to a specialist running shop they will measure your feet.... and maybe pop you on a treadmill and look at your running style to see how your foot strikes and what type of shoe to recommend. That said, you can always buy last years models which will be half the price of this years!

There is a lot of science and a lot of pseudoscience behind running shoes.  The industry is worth billions of pounds a year to the shoe manufacturers, so they have an interest in trying to get you to buy their shoes.  A lot of the 'science' surrounding running shoes is just actually marketing.  In recent years there's been a massive boom in the minimalist/barefoot market, which is now worth over a £1 billion a year.  Again though, the science behind this is disputed.

I've been in running shops where the well-meaning 'expert' has advised me on a particular shoe, even though it's not suitable for the way I run. 
Basically, I'd be sceptical about any 'advice' given out without assessing the merits of what's being said and if there's any bias behind it.  So, that takes you back to Stu and his specific issues (with his feet, that is).

Your feet getting rubbed to pieces isn't good, obviously.  Sounds like you need a shoe with a bigger toe-box.  Also, it might mean your feet are moving around in your shoe too much if they are too loose?  Could also be a problem with your socks too, and them not protecting your feet from the rubbing.

What shoes have you got at the moment?
What socks do you use?

What works for me might not work for you, and that's the problem with a lot of the 'expert advice' with running shoes.  You did mention you've got weird feet anyway, so you might need something to specifically address the issues you're having because of them.

[kinboshi]

Interesting articles:

http://sportspodiatryinfo.wordpress.com/2011/02/02/choosing-running-shoes-the-evidence-behind-the-recommendations/

and

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4185

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I could post a photograph of my running shoes if that would help.

[outragous76]

Only joshing mate.  Still love you really.

Its all good

Well its not

I cant walk today, I woke up in the night and thought I had broken both my knees!

Advice please Kin/Gat;

Can you get running shoes specially made?
I have fat/wide feet, always have. And the inside edge of both feet is getting rubbed to pieces as I run and its obv only going to get worse.
Anything I can do?

You didnt have these problems when you were boozing mate!

Seems like a fairly simple resolution to me!

[Claw75]

Bit of an uphill battle ahead here.  Got hit by a nasty cold a few weeks ago that developed into a chest infection that wouldn't shift.  After a week of antibiotics it's almost cleared now, and I'm going to start training again tomorrow.

I'm now faced with the reality of being signed up to run a half marathon in just 11 weeks time, having never run more than 3 miles in my life, and only having done that a handful of times.  Just going to concentrate on building up as much as I can over those weeks without overdoing it, and will be happy if I can do the full course at the end of May without having to walk some of the way (actually, I'd still probably be pretty happy if I finished it even with some walking thrown in )

Sponsorship has been slow, but when a donation has come in it's been hugely motivating so if anyway wants to click on the linkies in my sig and give some money to a good cause, then please feel free

[StuartHopkin]

Only joshing mate.  Still love you really.

Its all good

Well its not

I cant walk today, I woke up in the night and thought I had broken both my knees!

Advice please Kin/Gat;

Can you get running shoes specially made?
I have fat/wide feet, always have. And the inside edge of both feet is getting rubbed to pieces as I run and its obv only going to get worse.
Anything I can do?

Running shoes are available in a number of widths, if you go to a specialist running shop they will measure your feet.... and maybe pop you on a treadmill and look at your running style to see how your foot strikes and what type of shoe to recommend. That said, you can always buy last years models which will be half the price of this years!

There is a lot of science and a lot of pseudoscience behind running shoes.  The industry is worth billions of pounds a year to the shoe manufacturers, so they have an interest in trying to get you to buy their shoes.  A lot of the 'science' surrounding running shoes is just actually marketing.  In recent years there's been a massive boom in the minimalist/barefoot market, which is now worth over a £1 billion a year.  Again though, the science behind this is disputed.

I've been in running shops where the well-meaning 'expert' has advised me on a particular shoe, even though it's not suitable for the way I run. 
Basically, I'd be sceptical about any 'advice' given out without assessing the merits of what's being said and if there's any bias behind it.  So, that takes you back to Stu and his specific issues (with his feet, that is).

Your feet getting rubbed to pieces isn't good, obviously.  Sounds like you need a shoe with a bigger toe-box.  Also, it might mean your feet are moving around in your shoe too much if they are too loose?  Could also be a problem with your socks too, and them not protecting your feet from the rubbing.

What shoes have you got at the moment?
What socks do you use?

What works for me might not work for you, and that's the problem with a lot of the 'expert advice' with running shoes.  You did mention you've got weird feet anyway, so you might need something to specifically address the issues you're having because of them.

Yeah weird wide feet, slightly strange walk which I assume translates into my run from walking on my toes from age 1-10. Sigh

You been in any of the Nottingham shops? Up and Running or Sweatshop?

They dont seem lose, I just have a pair of Asics running shoes and some gay little Puma training socks.

Tried the moulded insoles but they really made my toes hurt so chucked them in the bin

Everything else is fine now just need to stop the inside edge of each foot looking like I have leprosy.

[kinboshi]

Sounds like you might need to go for a shoe that has a wide toe-box, giving your toes space so they don't rub.

I've been to the Sweatshop (that's the one at the Virgin whatsit isn't it?) and  Up and Running.  The Up and Running people might be more helpful at a guess.  They might suggest shoes that have roomy toe-boxes for you, and I think certain makes tend to fit differently - for example, Adidas tend to be narrower than Nike or New Balance.  Also, some makes will have shoes in different width fittings and that might be helpful for you.

Best to try them on obviously, but if they haven't got exactly what you need (such as wider fittings in stock), then you might want to try online.  A lot of places allow you to return shoes free of charge, or at worst it's a few quid anyway, but then you can track down exactly the ones you want.

When you run, do you run on your toes?  The 'minimalist' shoes like the ones I've just got have really wide toe-boxes to allow the toes to 'splay' as you land, but they have virtually no cushioning in the midsole so aren't for everyone.

Might even be worth looking at something slightly different, like the Newton shoes: http://www.newtonrunning.co.uk/newton-products/the-shoes/mens-shoes/men-stability-guidance-trainer.html  According to that site they stock them in Sweatshop, so you could try them on and use the treadmill there to get an idea of them before you buy. On the US site, they have wide-fitting ones: http://newtonrunning.com/shoes/mens-shoes/men-guidance-trainer/neutral-guidance-trainer-wide - but not sure if they're available in the UK...

 

[kinboshi]

I use these socks, but they don't suit everyone:  http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002RBE290/  - I find the twin-layer helps prevent any rubbing or blistering.  Might be worth trying them or looking at thicker, cushioned socks?

[Jon MW]

Could you run a marathon without training?

Just in case this ends up applying to anybody.