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« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2011, 12:50:38 PM »


Has blonde sent George Lucas an invoice too ........ ? :-)



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« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2011, 12:26:53 AM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053851/Greek-shipping-heir-centre-750million-fraud-ran-just-computers-broken-laptop.html

quick someone phone up the daily fail and say he was a poker player

http://blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=455
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« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2011, 10:13:48 AM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053661/Children-young-run-gambling-debts-games-MARBLES.html

I'm starting to think the Daily Mail is actually a very subtle version of the Onion, its like a brilliant joke we are all to dim to understand
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« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2011, 10:18:02 AM »


FFS, did I really write that bio?
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« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2011, 10:34:25 AM »


lol...wp your excellency
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« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2011, 10:56:01 AM »



1:03 lol
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« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2011, 11:04:58 AM »



1:03 lol

There is a blonde story or two around that table........
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« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2011, 11:07:30 AM »

Irish Denis...not seen or heard from him in aaaaaaaaaaaages!
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« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2011, 11:18:22 AM »

"Kallikis is one of the great trappers of all time" Jessie May the Prophet
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« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2011, 11:25:56 AM »



1:03 lol

There is a blonde story or two around that table........

Bit of an understatement!!

Btw - what do you know of the guy who was always with Achilleas? I forget his name but I played with him only a few months before coming out here at the Big Slick club in Purley. So wanted to say something but couldn't be bothered. Is he caught up in all Kallakis's mess too? Involved in it? I can't remember the full details.
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« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2011, 11:29:55 AM »



1:03 lol

There is a blonde story or two around that table........

Bit of an understatement!!

Btw - what do you know of the guy who was always with Achilleas? I forget his name but I played with him only a few months before coming out here at the Big Slick club in Purley. So wanted to say something but couldn't be bothered. Is he caught up in all Kallakis's mess too? Involved in it? I can't remember the full details.

I believe you are referring to Mr Robert Cooper.

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« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2011, 01:37:59 PM »


I'm a bit reticent about all this.

When I post pics on blonde, they either belong to me - I took them - or blonde, which is fine, or, & most frequently, I go to google Images & lift one from there. It never occurs to me to pay anyone for them.
The blondepedia photos - the ones used by the Mail & Telegraph - were presumably lifted from google images, rather than directly from blonde, or THM.
Are not photos on google Images - unless they specificaly say "you may not use without permission", or are "wartermarked" - free to all to use?If I "lift" a photo from google Images that came from the Daily Telegraph, for example, what is the difference?

Creation of an image is enough to make it copyright in most cases – for example a painter may create a painting and this then cannot be copied/reproduced without permission. The same can be said of a photo – just because it’s easier to create a picture of a poker player doesn’t make it any less copyright. Think about all those fantastic photos of nature that have taken hours/days of preparation to get just right Would it be ok to produce that on postcards and make money out of it if you had not taken the photo in the first place? No – which is why licensing exits – to allow that to happen.

So – on to online publishing. Slightly off topic but very interesting legal case with Norm Zada- owner of now defunct Perfect 10 – very very clever guy – we have facebooked because of our model connections – and he is a very clever geek (I love clever men)  his Dad created fuzzy logic and his family are just clever x 10.

Norm created Perfect 10 glamour magazine and then tried to sue Google for using thumbnail images of his magazines photos to link to various sites. In fact it was the sites that had the pictures on their sites that were infringing on the copyright – not Google. It was ruled that as they were providing them in such a way (thumbnail) it was not of good enough quality to stop the public buying into third party sites to see the images in better quality. So there was no loss of revenue for Perfect 10. It was ruled as being 'Fair Use'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Using images from Blonde? Well the copyright has been ascertained purely by the taking of the photo however Blonde is not a subscription site and is easily accessed by any member of the public. Does this change things? Not really imo – if I had a website and had created a picture of me and one of my clients and put it on there can it be used on the Daily Mail? Not without my permission despite the public nature of the subject. Just by me putting it up there I have asserted my right over the image I created.

If the image was on Facebook it’s different matter as you are giving permission for other facebook users to share your image just by putting it up there.

It’s interesting.

Very easy for the DM to approach Blonde and ask for permission so no excuses there. Their defence will be they saw it elsewhere and lifted it from there – and that it was very difficult to ascertain from the primary source they lifted it from who the owner was. No excuse but if they took reasonable steps to find out they may have a reasonable excuse and just promise not to use it from now on.

I think you have a good case for financial payment – more if you can confirm that the images were also used in the print version of the paper as there is provable profit from the sales of the printed paper. Depending on how DM on line make money – assuming its from clicks and ad’s - then the widespread distribution of your images online to a much wider audience here and abroad (copy the comments at the bottom of the article for evidence of this) should result in a bigger payment imo. I think you have a very strong case.
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« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2011, 01:54:22 PM »

It's just cheaper/easier for the newspapers to lift the images from the internet and write a cheque later if the copyright owner notices, rather than ask everyone first.
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« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2011, 02:19:47 PM »

With so many Blondes having had their day in court and most likely more will in the future, how about setting up a new type of thread where they can answer questions about their experience. It could be called 'In the dock with...'
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« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2011, 02:31:48 PM »

It's just cheaper/easier for the newspapers to lift the images from the internet and write a cheque later if the copyright owner notices, rather than ask everyone first.

Well unless my understanding of copyright law is wrong (and there is always a chance) then yes - it's worked so far......if they ring and ask and Blonde says yes then no fee is payable - remember the case of Marcus and the US coverage - they rang Tighty and asked and he said yes. Hence no fee.

I was using an image from google - no idea where it origianlly came from - on my website and eventually someone wrote to em and showed me the original source - the image was licensed and I removed it immediately - they tried to charge me over £1k for use so far - despite the fact i could have bought it for £250 - their reasoning being it was a sort of unofficial fine or they would take me to court.

I argued that there was no real commercial benefit to me from using the image as it didn't sell any product as such just was being used as 'website decoration' - it was a picure of people jumping up and down - and in the end they left me alone.

They use tineye and other such software to track down useage of images, so no one can escape, even little sites like mine.
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