Premier League Relegation Season 2011/2012

[aaron1867]

Reading through this thread it goes to show how wrong everyone is.

At the start of the season I expected big things from Wolves, I thought it might be the season they go into top half, but that has backfired. But to even that up, I did think Bolton was going to struggle this season.

My current view is that those that are in the bottom 3 will stay there now.

Wolves - Hammered by West Brom who are just a very average PL team.
Bolton - Just play so poor and outplayed by Wigan at the weekend.
Wigan - Just a very poor team in general.

QPR have bought players that are of a decent standard and will stay up.

[bobby1]

Two things struck me yesterday, one that Fraser hasn't posted on any on these footy threads for ages and two, reading thru some of these threads he has got some good analysis on some of the markets.

The QPR tips on here and the analysis above is spot on, they really do have an awful run in and seem to be in poor form.The worry is that he has just decided to stop posting after getting grief, which is a bad sign for the betting threads in general if people that are willing to put in the time he obv did on this board just decide that the hassle makes it -EV.

Even if we don't agree with some of the tips it has to be better to have a healthy debate and maybe iron out the difference of opinion, the grief seems to have even put an end to that.

At the end of the day we are all trying to win a few quid, this thread has been running along for months and has seemingly died off because some people saw it differently but expressed it in a way that made the original author give up.

He might just be on holiday or summat but its a bad sign when people that keep these threads going give up imo.

[pleno1]

West Brom hammered the mackems last week too remember..

[TightEnd]

The worry is that he has just decided to stop posting after getting grief, which is a bad sign for the betting threads in general if people that are willing to put in the time he obv did on this board just decide that the hassle makes it -EV.

this has happened, yes. Hopefully temporary

A shame

The QPR analysis was brave/mocked at the time, and was prescient

[bobby1]

The worry is that he has just decided to stop posting after getting grief, which is a bad sign for the betting threads in general if people that are willing to put in the time he obv did on this board just decide that the hassle makes it -EV.

this has happened, yes. Hopefully temporary

A shame

The QPR analysis was brave/mocked at the time, and was prescient

that's a pity then. Even if it had turned out to be wrong it still gives people a chance to join in and maybe get to the bottom of something and make a bet that might be a better one than they would have had, even if it is the opposite of one that was suggested originally.

That's got to be a really good thing in the long run.

[vegaslover]

As Bobbys said, a great shame that somebody putting up well explained thought process gets grief for it so stops. I took some on QPR just because of reading his post and seeing the run in they have.

[bobby1]

As Bobbys said, a great shame that somebody putting up well explained thought process gets grief for it so stops. I took some on QPR just because of reading his post and seeing the run in they have.

A good  example from the tips for Tikay thread yesterday. Keith put up a horse bet for Chelters. Someone spotted A PP special  offer that was better than the original bet. Keith then saw another angle in laying the win part of the original bet back and keeping the place part(which was brill value)

So instead of the original bet the guys now have two good value bets that were better than the first suggestion. None of that happens if the feedback on that thread was like the stuff Fraser gets on these.

[The Camel]

I have to say if QPR perform to the standard they played today, they will not go down. (Obviously a pretty big if)

Traore, Zamora, Buzsaky, Taarabt and Onouha were all excellent.

We have ALOT more quality than anyone else at the bottom.

I've just backed us to stay up at 6/5.

Next weekend, away at Bolton is a huge game. Anything above 5/2 will be value for a QPR win imo.

[Skgv]

I have to say if QPR perform to the standard they played today, they will not go down. (Obviously a pretty big if)

Traore, Zamora, Buzsaky, Taarabt and Onouha were all excellent.

We have ALOT more quality than anyone else at the bottom.

I've just backed us to stay up at 6/5.

Next weekend, away at Bolton is a huge game. Anything above 5/2 will be value for a QPR win imo.

That last min goal may of just done it ! As Bolton now 4/11 to go down while QPR at 9/4 .QPR could even give Man utd a present on sunday an let them keep the title ! FFs High pressure stuff this year

[tikay]

If ever a thread made interesting reading months down the line, it is this one.

Whatever happens, Fraser was close to reading it right.

This was the position as at February 7th.....

17 Aston Villa            25 3 4 6 14 17 3 6 3 15 17 -5     28
16 QPR                   25 2 4 6 13 20 3 2 8 14 24 -17      21
17 Blackburn            25 4 0 9 19 26 1 6 5 18 30 -19     21
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18 Wolverhampton  25 3 2 8 17 28 2 4 6 11 21 -21      21
19 Bolton                 25 2 2 9 15 27 4 0 8 14 24 -22     20
20 Wigan                 25 1 5 6 11 22 3 2 8 12 28 -27     19

And now? Wigan have 40 points!

 

[Skgv]

If ever a thread made interesting reading months down the line, it is this one.

Whatever happens, Fraser was close to reading it right.

This was the position as at February 7th.....

17 Aston Villa            25 3 4 6 14 17 3 6 3 15 17 -5     28
16 QPR                   25 2 4 6 13 20 3 2 8 14 24 -17      21
17 Blackburn            25 4 0 9 19 26 1 6 5 18 30 -19     21
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18 Wolverhampton  25 3 2 8 17 28 2 4 6 11 21 -21      21
19 Bolton                 25 2 2 9 15 27 4 0 8 14 24 -22     20
20 Wigan                 25 1 5 6 11 22 3 2 8 12 28 -27     19

And now? Wigan have 40 points!

 

Where is Fraser ? He predicted a massive sweat both ends of the table ! Shame hes not posting as he was sick of the way people reply sometimes which is a shame cause he seems like a knowledgble chap. im sure he will read this ! Whats going to happen weekend m8 !!

[pleno1]

ok you have a chance now.

Seems pretty suicidal from the board, hes a great manager and as I've said, great games coming up.

PANIC PLAY.

Perfect for Leeds imo

[TightEnd]

Terrific for F4F that this has come down to the last game

QPR shouldn't get anything at the weekend. Can Bolton do Stoke? I doubt it, but chances....

[bobby1]

Good luck Fraser, can't believe how well QPR have run at home and you still got a good chance to get em down.

I'm hoping it goes your way mate, in a way that doesn't upset Keith ;o)

[Skgv]

Terrific for F4F that this has come down to the last game

QPR shouldn't get anything at the weekend. Can Bolton do Stoke? I doubt it, but chances....

Good luck Fraser, can't believe how well QPR have run at home and you still got a good chance to get em down.

I'm hoping it goes your way mate, in a way that doesn't upset Keith ;o)

Thanks for the Good Luck  Guys...

Considering they were trading at 1-6 to go down when 2-0 down  at home to Liverpool its been quite a remarkable /borderline ridiculous turn around.

So my current  thoughts....

There are a few of us that think its actually better for Bolton to need the win rather than the draw as they will set their stall out better attacking Stoke.

Regardless of Joey Bartons sad comments Man City will  not be denied the win & with it the premiership title so this will leave Bolton needing victory to stay up.

One thing to bear in mind is that Wigan needed to win at The Brittania Stadium in the last game of last season and Stoke never put up a fight , so Wigan got their victory and stayed up.

I think Bolton will be up for the game, and can do it , but its pretty much down to Owen Coyles tactics &  the hand of the gods.

Fingers crossed for Bolton and anybody whos followed me .

Hello buddy ! So you dont think theres no chance QPR can just defend an put 10 men behind the ball an hold out ?