$100 hu sng vs reg

[pleno1]

I've been playing these vs a couple of regs who think I'm awful and I've taken weird lines which I assume they will think are fishy, fexample, shoiving as a bluff over a 450 bets with 1000 effective stacks at start of the hand.

This guy is pretty awful imo and a terrible reg, havn't opr'd him but he';s def making mistakes and not adjusting v.well. He checks back flops alot and I have led almost all of the turns. If he never has a calling range on the river, what do y'all think about donking this river really small and getting him to shove over as a bluff?

PokerStars Game #70272710327: Tournament #466670787, $95.69+$4.31 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2011/11/09 16:40:23 CET [2011/11/09 10:40:23 ET]
Table '466670787 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Yura_rnd (1591 in chips)
Seat 2: pads1161 (1409 in chips)
Yura_rnd: posts small blind 15
pads1161: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
Yura_rnd: raises 30 to 60
pads1161: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [ ]
pads1161: checks
Yura_rnd: checks
*** TURN *** [ ] []
pads1161: bets 86
Yura_rnd: raises 124 to 210
pads1161: calls 124
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
pads1161: checks
Yura_rnd: bets 270
pads1161: raises 869 to 1139 and is all-in

[boldie]

I prefer this TBH. I think leading out here just always screams "I have the flush or better" and think this is more likely to get him to fling some chippies into the pot.

[pleno1]

for the record, if i led the river it would be close to the size of his turn bet.

[pleno1]

also thoughts if we have   

[SuuPRlim]

i like leading the river, cant see him ever value betting this card now, but it looks like he's prolly bluffing on the turn so maybe there is merit to chking as most river value comes from bluffs.

having said that i would have lead the river small, as you suggest something like 150~, only major + for checking is if he has AQ we will way more.

[Ingi]

  Dave?

[mulhuzz]

what we think about just shoving river with both and ?

[Dubai]

Why would we check raise QT hh on the river? Way overcomplicating a simple hand

As played it's fine. QThh is obviously a call/fold on river not a check-raise

[pleno1]

what we think about just shoving river with both and ?

less than 0% with either, what would be the merits of this?

[pleno1]

Why would we check raise QT hh on the river? Way overcomplicating a simple hand

As played it's fine. QThh is obviously a call/fold on river not a check-raise

to get him to fold chops/ax.

you prefer a call or fold on river with q10hh?

[Dubai]

Turning hands into bluffs has to be the most overrated thing ever- particularly in a sng where people aren't looking to fold and are generally real basic thinkers- the reason we check raise QTcc is because they bet call worse all the time. Toss a coin on QThh one, not sure what I like

[pleno1]

ok cool thanks.

so what do you think his calling range is on the river when we c/shove.

also what hands do you think he raises for value when we donk small otr and what hands do you think he turns into bluffs vs us?

[Dubai]

In his head is value range is queens up+, I doubt he bets that big with Qx on river either. So on river I guess his calling range is 4x+, I actually think given description 4x consists of most of his value range

As for him turning hands Into bluffs i'd guess sng players with his description are like 100x more likely to make thin calls on the river than randomly turn hands into a bluff.

I think you are massively over thinking everything against someone you describe as terrible etc in a sng. The hand looks fine to me as it is and wp

[pleno1]

ok thanks.

i thought that his line is always 4x or FOS and would raise both of them if i donked small but would fold the FOS if i c/r.

cheers.

[Dubai]

I mean obviously you are far more likely to know his tendencies in gameflow but as you described above his image is real passive given he checks loads of flops etc and you have crazy image- with that info just seems so unlikely he is going to start turning hands into bluffs on river