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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2011, 06:01:46 PM » |
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You should be seen to be going out of your way NOT to gain an advantage from this spot. And you should do your best to help this guy learn to protect his hand properly. If he continues to show... continue to help him.
It is not only a question of ethical considerations; acting in any other way is simply bad for business.
Anyone who thinks otherwise does not truly understand how to be a long-term success in gambling.
Disagree with this whole statement. +1 should we do our best to help fish learn how to play better as well? |
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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2011, 06:05:35 PM » |
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So why bother posting in pha
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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2011, 06:21:24 PM » |
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You should be seen to be going out of your way NOT to gain an advantage from this spot. And you should do your best to help this guy learn to protect his hand properly. If he continues to show... continue to help him.
It is not only a question of ethical considerations; acting in any other way is simply bad for business.
Anyone who thinks otherwise does not truly understand how to be a long-term success in gambling.
Disagree with this whole statement. +1 should we do our best to help fish learn how to play better as well? In some circumstances it can be good for business to help a fish improve his game a little bit. It is a different issue, although it follows the same principle. Regarding the main issue... It is a question of long-term thinking vs narrow short-term thinking. From a narrow/short term point of view the most +EV play is clearly to seek to gain an advantage from seeing this guy's cards. It is not the most +EV play from a long-term point of view though. |
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« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2011, 07:01:56 PM » |
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This isn't about gaining an advantage for me. It's about taking the time to keep telling someone to protect them. I will tell someone twice. If they continue to ignore me I'm not going to waste my time and energy to continually tell them to stop doing it. Obv scummy thing to do if you can see someone's cards and not tell them
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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2011, 07:06:11 PM » |
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So why bother posting in pha
Pha is different. I don't come across the people whose threads I post in. Also, I've been helped out by kind ppl posting in pha on my threads so it's all good karma. |
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« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2011, 07:21:51 PM » |
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Long term Point of view the oppinent might not be a reg in the games
And Dave is not in Vegas for ever so therefore he should try maximise profit ?
U warned him twice already ......
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« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2011, 08:09:47 PM » |
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You should be seen to be going out of your way NOT to gain an advantage from this spot. And you should do your best to help this guy learn to protect his hand properly. If he continues to show... continue to help him.
It is not only a question of ethical considerations; acting in any other way is simply bad for business.
Anyone who thinks otherwise does not truly understand how to be a long-term success in gambling.
What is the long term disadvantage if as in this case you're 0% to get caught |
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2011, 08:18:12 PM » |
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What is the long term disadvantage if as in this case you're 0% to get caught
If you are seen to be going out of your way not to take advantage you are 100% to improve your reputation as a gambler. |
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« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2011, 08:29:06 PM » |
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I'm liking Mr Honeybadger's line here.
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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2011, 08:30:56 PM » |
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Yes now that's karma.
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2011, 10:56:17 PM » |
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WWYD if you arrive to play some other day and same guy is at the table but you are seated opposite side of the table from him, however the person currently next to him will probably be able to see his cards every hand.
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« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2011, 11:00:37 PM » |
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I played a $2k HUSNG a few years ago and there was a power cut.
Before the days of dongles and the like.
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2011, 02:52:42 AM » |
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2011, 10:44:08 AM » |
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If you set up a video camera in the seat opposite and trained it on yourself you would see everything through the eyes of the other people at the table. Watching it back you would witness yourself leaning back in the chair and your eyes darting in snide fashion down and to the left/right in the hope of glimpsing your oppos cards. Watching that video back would make you feel pretty ashamed of yourself imo and hence clearly it's not ethical. The excuse that you've already told him will seem pretty thin when you see your own eyes darting around in snide fashion. People at the table will see you doing this and will think you are a real douche. See yourself do it and you would have to agree.
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2011, 01:42:08 PM » |
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If you set up a video camera in the seat opposite and trained it on yourself you would see everything through the eyes of the other people at the table. Watching it back you would witness yourself leaning back in the chair and your eyes darting in snide fashion down and to the left/right in the hope of glimpsing your oppos cards. Watching that video back would make you feel pretty ashamed of yourself imo and hence clearly it's not ethical. The excuse that you've already told him will seem pretty thin when you see your own eyes darting around in snide fashion. People at the table will see you doing this and will think you are a real douche. See yourself do it and you would have to agree.
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