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NigDawG
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Re: IPOPS
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November 29, 2011, 06:01:14 AM »
Quote from: Moorman1 on November 29, 2011, 04:31:37 AM
I would very very rarely fold pre here with these stack sizes and positions the guy would have to be tighter than RDCRSN and Young Supremacy ghosting Craig McCorkell. You dominate the vast majority of his 3 betting range so when you flop top pair its basically the nuts and can induce in a varitey of ways depending on the texture of the board. Being suited is key here (I would likely fold kq offsuit to some villains a lot) as you can flop loads of draws that you can semi bluff with eg. by check calling the flop and then check shoving over a 2nd barrel with these stack sizes. You can even check call float the flop oop and jam over turn barrels when you turn equity as he is going to 3 barrel your cards when you turn top pair. An example of this would be a t42 rainbow board with 1 club. On this board u can check call the flop and then check jam any 9, any jacl and any club and check call down on any queen or king (please call every river though) .Rupert nailed it with the blockers line, it really lowers the number of combinations of value hands the villain can have. KQ here is essentially JJ (even though you will probably never flat JJ pre here) but I might fold the JJ on the river but have to calll the kq because of the blockers to his possible combination of value hands factor.
Saying all that I don't think the river is too close really because lets assume your average online reg deep in a big 6 max comp is going to be decently aggressive and especially in these positions (cutoff to button). Therefor they are going to have so much air in their range preflop. He keeps all that air in his range by c betting q62 rainbow close to 100% of the time, he ALWAYS barrels the ace unless he has something (lol) so he gets to the river with close to 100% of his air still. A king rolls off on the river and he has a good stack to pot jam left..... there is no way that kq can be a fold agaisnt this range even though it 100% is just a bluff catcher against any1 with a brain. There are just 2 many bluffs to catch and you block too many combos of his value hands.
After you find out that villain is Brendoor you should probably go and kill yourself as he is less likely to have a hand here than the UK's latest online sensation Chris Brammer. Don't worry Trigg I still love you and I really hope you ship this 10r
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Re: IPOPS
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November 29, 2011, 06:49:52 AM »
Quote from: NigDawG on November 29, 2011, 06:01:14 AM
Quote from: Moorman1 on November 29, 2011, 04:31:37 AM
I would very very rarely fold pre here with these stack sizes and positions the guy would have to be tighter than RDCRSN and Young Supremacy ghosting Craig McCorkell. You dominate the vast majority of his 3 betting range so when you flop top pair its basically the nuts and can induce in a varitey of ways depending on the texture of the board. Being suited is key here (I would likely fold kq offsuit to some villains a lot) as you can flop loads of draws that you can semi bluff with eg. by check calling the flop and then check shoving over a 2nd barrel with these stack sizes. You can even check call float the flop oop and jam over turn barrels when you turn equity as he is going to 3 barrel your cards when you turn top pair. An example of this would be a t42 rainbow board with 1 club. On this board u can check call the flop and then check jam any 9, any jacl and any club and check call down on any queen or king (please call every river though) .Rupert nailed it with the blockers line, it really lowers the number of combinations of value hands the villain can have. KQ here is essentially JJ (even though you will probably never flat JJ pre here) but I might fold the JJ on the river but have to calll the kq because of the blockers to his possible combination of value hands factor.
Saying all that I don't think the river is too close really because lets assume your average online reg deep in a big 6 max comp is going to be decently aggressive and especially in these positions (cutoff to button). Therefor they are going to have so much air in their range preflop. He keeps all that air in his range by c betting q62 rainbow close to 100% of the time, he ALWAYS barrels the ace unless he has something (lol) so he gets to the river with close to 100% of his air still. A king rolls off on the river and he has a good stack to pot jam left..... there is no way that kq can be a fold agaisnt this range even though it 100% is just a bluff catcher against any1 with a brain. There are just 2 many bluffs to catch and you block too many combos of his value hands.
After you find out that villain is Brendoor you should probably go and kill yourself as he is less likely to have a hand here than the UK's latest online sensation Chris Brammer. Don't worry Trigg I still love you and I really hope you ship this 10r
the best piece of pha i've seen in a long time
Agreed, thanks Chris post moaaarrrrr!
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Re: IPOPS
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November 29, 2011, 08:11:20 AM »
So many heroes itt
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November 29, 2011, 08:29:55 AM »
Quote from: George2Loose on November 29, 2011, 08:11:20 AM
So many heroes itt
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November 29, 2011, 01:00:26 PM »
Quote from: action man on November 29, 2011, 04:34:21 AM
i didnt fold i timed out mug
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November 29, 2011, 04:23:58 PM »
I c,r,c flop and KQ isnt JJ here, thats just wrong
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November 29, 2011, 04:36:45 PM »
whats bottom of villains value range otr in everyones opinion?
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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November 29, 2011, 04:39:23 PM »
No-one will agree but i bet all 3 streets with AJ/AT
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November 29, 2011, 04:56:27 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on November 29, 2011, 04:36:45 PM
whats bottom of villains value range otr in everyones opinion?
AJ, AT, KQ, KJ imo.
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November 29, 2011, 05:18:57 PM »
Quote from: Dubai on November 29, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
No-one will agree but i bet all 3 streets with AJ/AT
i think thats reasonable albeit thin if you decide to 3 bet them
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Re: IPOPS
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November 29, 2011, 07:59:22 PM »
Quote from: Moorman1 on November 29, 2011, 04:31:37 AM
I would very very rarely fold pre here with these stack sizes and positions the guy would have to be tighter than RDCRSN and Young Supremacy ghosting Craig McCorkell. You dominate the vast majority of his 3 betting range so when you flop top pair its basically the nuts and can induce in a varitey of ways depending on the texture of the board. Being suited is key here (I would likely fold kq offsuit to some villains a lot) as you can flop loads of draws that you can semi bluff with eg. by check calling the flop and then check shoving over a 2nd barrel with these stack sizes. You can even check call float the flop oop and jam over turn barrels when you turn equity as he is going to 3 barrel your cards when you turn top pair. An example of this would be a t42 rainbow board with 1 club. On this board u can check call the flop and then check jam any 9, any jacl and any club and check call down on any queen or king (please call every river though) .Rupert nailed it with the blockers line, it really lowers the number of combinations of value hands the villain can have. KQ here is essentially JJ (even though you will probably never flat JJ pre here) but I might fold the JJ on the river but have to calll the kq because of the blockers to his possible combination of value hands factor.
Saying all that I don't think the river is too close really because lets assume your average online reg deep in a big 6 max comp is going to be decently aggressive and especially in these positions (cutoff to button). Therefor they are going to have so much air in their range preflop. He keeps all that air in his range by c betting q62 rainbow close to 100% of the time, he ALWAYS barrels the ace unless he has something (lol) so he gets to the river with close to 100% of his air still. A king rolls off on the river and he has a good stack to pot jam left..... there is no way that kq can be a fold agaisnt this range even though it 100% is just a bluff catcher against any1 with a brain. There are just 2 many bluffs to catch and you block too many combos of his value hands.
After you find out that villain is Brendoor you should probably go and kill yourself as he is less likely to have a hand here than the UK's latest online sensation Chris Brammer. Don't worry Trigg I still love you and I really hope you ship this 10r
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November 29, 2011, 09:42:34 PM »
Yeah but reckon he learnt most of it from his dad
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