Public Sector Strikes

[StuartHopkin]

<3 these threads
Much better than your recent fold related thread Guy

Down with the Unions!

[boldie]

Such a simple solution




Wonder how long it will be before Rod comes along as he smells Maggie from miles away

[EvilPie]

My company hasn't given any pay rises for 3 years now. We have also made several redundant in that time and gone through many other cost slashing exercises.

Although our work force are part of a union who set pay rates all of our staff agreed to pay freezes for the good of the company and to ensure that the company could continue to exist.

I have absolute zero sympathy for anyone who strikes in order to demand more money at the moment. If our guys went on strike I'd just wrap the firm up. Why? Because in 6 months there'd be no firm anyway.

If the country was thriving and they were having effective pay cuts then fair enough but the reality is that pretty much every business including the Government is skint and has to make cut backs.

Disagree

You would.

[mulhuzz]

For disclosure, in case anyone thinks that this may colour my views, I :

[ ] currently live in the UK
[ ] am currently employed
[X] mother is a nurse and father has his own business providing services exclusively to the public sector.

I am also:

[ ] supporting the strikes
[X] well read on the topic
[X] convinced that the strikes are a horrible idea because
[ ] they will work and
[X] they will turn public opinion against the strikers even if you
[X] agree that they are right to be disgruntled, which I
[ ] do

yeah, can't be arsed to keep that up...

basically, they don't make any coherent sociopolitical or economic sense. It's like they are just burning all that economic output at a time britain really needs it.

[redsimon]

[X] Live in UK
[ ] Currently employed
[X] Used to work in Civil Service
[X] Have two Civil Service pension pots which cannot be transferred to a private pension (not that I would want to)
[X] Support strikers. Mainly bacause if the changes go through my "frozen" Pensions will get f**ked by changes from RPI to CPI uprating.
[X] Strikers are acting in their self interests, but doesn't every side of this row?
[X] know how to do check boxes oops lol

[boldie]

[X] Live in UK
[ } Currently employed
[X] Used to work in Civil Service
[X] Have two Civil Service pension pots which cannot be transferred to a private pension (not that I would want to)
[X] Support strikers. Mainly bacause if the changes go through my "frozen" Pensions will get f**ked by changes from RPI to CPI uprating.
[X] Strikers are acting in their self interests, but doesn't every side of this row?
[X] know how to do check boxes

[X] You sure do

[nirvana]

Meh, they can all strike IMO. They do a very worthwhile job and are massively underpaid compared to people in the private sector.
Civil servants and those in the public sector contribute more to the economy than they take out and that has to be recognised.
The pensions they have are a must if the govt wants to keep recruiting the best of the best into shitty jobs like teaching, nursing...








Ah f*ck, I can't keep that nonsense up.

+1

Was reading that para getting more and more tilted till the punchline obv :-)

No pay rise at our company for 3 years, pensions turned into money purchase schemes years ago, expectations remain high, people achieve more for less etc etc

Seriously, these public sector people really don't have a clue. No expectation, ridic metrics, no penalty for being an underachiever, ridic pensions & benefits already and still want to bleat. The old shibboleth of them being poorly paid versus private sector is laughable. Go tell the average worker in a service industry that he/she is well paid versus the public sector.

I'd quite cheerfully fire them all and let them re-apply at 20% worse conditions - how many would ? Er... 100% ish

[millidonk]

God damn public sector workers, god damn private sector workers, god damn immigrants, god damn jobless, god damn homeless, god damn obese people, god damn old people, god damn people who believe in god, god damn politicians. = Great Britain

Think everyone should go on strike apart from the jobless obv, they should have to work for a day.


[ X ] Pay my taxes [ X ] Needed to go to hospital today [  ] could get seen [ x ] worked in the public sector [  ] have ever striked [ x ] like using boxes to make pointless points

[Jon MW]

It baffles me that it all goes ahead in the first place...only 30% of those who could vote bothered to vote, and not everyone of those 30% voted to strike.

How can the unions say the have the backing of the public, when, overall they don't even have the full backing of thier own membership!

My local school is shut due to teachers walking out, and over the past fortnight, I've seem more union reps in school then during the past 4 years telling teachers they should be members to "proctect themselves" .....nothing to do with boost strike numbers then no?

...

Most of the people out on strike aren't on a picket line - they're just enjoying the day off, which isn't surprising when they didn't vote for the strike.

I don't think it would be right to specify a specific turnout for a strike vote to be valid - but I do think it'd be fairer and easier if they introduced the rule that the unions were only allowed to pull out on strike the members who actually voted for it.

[smashedagain]

A banker, a school teacher, a Tory mp and a member of the general public are all sat in a room with a table and a plate with ten biscuits on it....... The greedy banker eats 9 of the biscuits and the Tory mp turns to the member of the public and says "becareful of the school teacher, I reckon she is trying to nick your biscuit"

[redsimon]

[X] Live in UK
[ } Currently employed
[X] Used to work in Civil Service
[X] Have two Civil Service pension pots which cannot be transferred to a private pension (not that I would want to)
[X] Support strikers. Mainly bacause if the changes go through my "frozen" Pensions will get f**ked by changes from RPI to CPI uprating.
[X] Strikers are acting in their self interests, but doesn't every side of this row?
[X] know how to do check boxes

[X] You sure do

I should use preview more lol

[Solaris]

I fail to see how the people who are striking will gain even the slightest bit of sympathy from the common man. Everyone is going through a hard time, that's life.

Suppose the Union fat cats need to justify their 100k+ salaries somehow.

[rex008]

A banker, a school teacher, a Tory mp and a member of the general public are all sat in a room with a table and a plate with ten biscuits on it....... The greedy banker eats 9 of the biscuits and the Tory mp turns to the member of the public and says "becareful of the school teacher, I reckon she is trying to nick your biscuit"

Gordon Brown takes out a credit card and maxes it out whilst being "prudent", during one of the best growth periods in the UK's history. The banks fuck up and Gordon decides to bail them out with yet more borrowed money. He then hands the card to the next lot, who decide that it should get paid back or we're all fucked. The teachers blame the bankers.

[smashedagain]

Lol. Mines a joke. I'm one Thatchers children if being honest.

[neeko]

Its mostly academic anyway - the UK will be broke and unable to pay the pensions as now presumed.

The closest they will be able to get is to inflate away the promises, and abolish free health care for all.

[  ] optimist