Re: Gary Speed

[Girgy85]

I often hear people say the tabloids churn out news from the gutter and the gullible sheep british public just lap it up. Many people who prefer independent thought deduce he died because of press intrusion into his life. I think that too and figure their strategy to link his death to mental illness is diversionary and wholly inappropriate. Usually they are the complete nosey parkers and I don't really think the red tops have "respect" for people, so funny that their whole coverage never directly asked why. Thus imo without the press intruding into his private life he would still be alive and happy. I don't care at all what GS got up to in his private life because it's not in the public interest and clearly didn't affect his job.

Not speculating is to allow the press to destroy lives unchecked. If they were about to destroy his life one day I think all this we loved GS on the front pages the next is a bit rich isn't it? So to not speculate is to behave like the media lead sheep people suggest we are and to tolerate the way the press operate. The NOTW closed because people speculated and speculation could well lead to futher red top closures and a change in how the press conduct themselves. If people don't want to speculate then that's fine but asking why really doesn't make somebody disrespectful. Saying somebody deserved to die is disrespectful.

Anyway can the mods tell me which day I'm on the advent calendar so I can remember to log back in for my special day?

Rich is keeping his Advent "choices" private, but I have recommended to him that you be included on TWO grounds, one for the brevity of your Posts, & the other for what I consider to be your superb contributions to the PHA, which are admired by one & all. Well, by me, anyway.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

your sharing a day with cos. 26th boxing day.

[MANTIS01]

I often hear people say the tabloids churn out news from the gutter and the gullible sheep british public just lap it up. Many people who prefer independent thought deduce he died because of press intrusion into his life. I think that too and figure their strategy to link his death to mental illness is diversionary and wholly inappropriate. Usually they are the complete nosey parkers and I don't really think the red tops have "respect" for people, so funny that their whole coverage never directly asked why. Thus imo without the press intruding into his private life he would still be alive and happy. I don't care at all what GS got up to in his private life because it's not in the public interest and clearly didn't affect his job.

Not speculating is to allow the press to destroy lives unchecked. If they were about to destroy his life one day I think all this we loved GS on the front pages the next is a bit rich isn't it? So to not speculate is to behave like the media lead sheep people suggest we are and to tolerate the way the press operate. The NOTW closed because people speculated and speculation could well lead to futher red top closures and a change in how the press conduct themselves. If people don't want to speculate then that's fine but asking why really doesn't make somebody disrespectful. Saying somebody deserved to die is disrespectful.

Anyway can the mods tell me which day I'm on the advent calendar so I can remember to log back in for my special day?

Rich is keeping his Advent "choices" private, but I have recommended to him that you be included on TWO grounds, one for the brevity of your Posts, & the other for what I consider to be your superb contributions to the PHA, which are admired by one & all. Well, by me, anyway.

Thanks for those kind words Tony. Of course any shareholder in an internet site who has any interest in the commerciality of the business would admire my contributions to that board like you do. I feel the same way. Think I'm prob struggling with the brevity award thou but thanks for your nominations all the same.

[nirvana]

I would like to know why he did it because it is mildly interesting, really can't see how speculating about it is in any way distasteful. Having said that, if I never know why I'll be fine too.

We speculate on peoples motives all the time so pretty reasonable to do it in more extreme cases like this I would think

[mulhuzz]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

[smashedagain]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

is it Easter

[AndrewT]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Source?

All reports I've seen have said compelte opposite.

[tikay]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Everyone is obliged to respect him? Kinda misses the point, if true.

[mondatoo]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Source?

All reports I've seen have said compelte opposite.

Seems unlikely after how the went on after Sir Bobby died, 

[kinboshi]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Everyone is obliged to respect him? Kinda misses the point, if true.

Common decency says yes, football fans should show respect to a respected footballer who has recently committed suicide.

[Raman]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Everyone is obliged to respect him? Kinda misses the point, if true.

Common decency says yes, football fans should show respect to a respected footballer who has recently committed suicide.

What if it was Joe Barton? He's a respected footballer, but he's an absolute cock.

If the Sunderland fans didn't want to clap I have no issue with that as long as they don't desecrate what others are doing!

[pokerfan]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Everyone is obliged to respect him? Kinda misses the point, if true.

Common decency says yes, football fans should show respect to a respected footballer who has recently committed suicide.

What if it was Joe Barton? He's a respected footballer, but he's an absolute cock.

If the Sunderland fans didn't want to clap I have no issue with that as long as they don't desecrate what others are doing!

Joey B is a bit of a reformed character these days, must admit i thought he should have been kicked out of the game a couple of years ago. Second chance n that.

Start a poll, Joey Barton cock or not. 

[kinboshi]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Everyone is obliged to respect him? Kinda misses the point, if true.

Common decency says yes, football fans should show respect to a respected footballer who has recently committed suicide.

What if it was Joe Barton? He's a respected footballer, but he's an absolute cock.

If the Sunderland fans didn't want to clap I have no issue with that as long as they don't desecrate what others are doing!

Quite like Joey Barton.

[Girgy85]

btw, abs horrific that s/land fans didn't clap speedo before game today, apparently.

Everyone is obliged to respect him? Kinda misses the point, if true.

Common decency says yes, football fans should show respect to a respected footballer who has recently committed suicide.

What if it was Joe Barton? He's a respected footballer, but he's an absolute cock.

If the Sunderland fans didn't want to clap I have no issue with that as long as they don't desecrate what others are doing!

Quite like Joey Barton.

+1 his twitter rants are class

[Graham C]

Clapped on more

[MANTIS01]

Any talk of Joey Barton is distasteful and disrespectful. I would suggest a seperate thread because several debates are getting mixed up here. People are taking this thread away from the purpose it was originally intended for. Quite why people chose to mention Joey Barton within this thread is beyond me.

As has been previously stated, THIS thread is for the GS debate.

So distasteful.