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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 03:30:41 PM »

It doesn't approach a decision point unless both villians have shoved in front of you and are now spinning on their chairs singing to themselves.

Nicely put.

OP... Given your read on the 3bettor I think 4betting is by far the best line preflop. Since you have chosen to flat the 3bet then don't ever consider anything other than stacking off on this flop. It's not even like you're especially deep. Not sure at all why you and others consider this a bad flop - this is a fine flop for your hand given the stack sizes, opponents and preflop action. Are you really waiting for a 224r flop to feel completely comfortable?

My flop bet is too big for a board as wet as this is my feeling? Does anybody check behind on this wet a flop to prevent a c/r?

No to both questions. You have your logic backwards here. In general, wet boards = larger sized bets, not smaller ones. And you should not be thinking of checking back to prevent a check-raise. You have a SPR of less than 1.5... which means you can aggressively play to maximise value against your opponent's full range without needing to worry about things like pot control/only getting it in against hands that beat you etc.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2011, 08:33:07 AM »

I am so much happier getting c/r on this board than c/called.

preflop is fine although i'm sure you'll still just get action p/f cos thats the type of players you're vs if you 4b, make it small 4b imo.

As played I don't know what you're possibly waiting for you know you're doing great vs any sensible range and you're getting a fine price on the rest of your stack
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2011, 04:54:30 PM »

First of all fold river in the first hand...

The hand in question, I think you need to raise bigger pre. If they're peeling for £14 in a straddled pot they're peeling for £18 imo.

I actually like your peel since villain 2 is short and is highly likely to be putting his remaining £158 into the pot of ~£130 with a range that you absolutely crush. If you were deeper than £270 then I think you have to 4bet because letting the fish call behind for £30 when you're fairly deep would be a criminal loss of value. As it is we don't mind the fish flatting behind because you're happily putting in your remaining £228 on almost all flops to almost any action.

Very happy to jam here, most of the time its the FD+overs, he can have a hand like 88/99 too that he just flatted pre. You don't have the blocker so he can still have the full range of draws. Sure he has a set sometimes but whatever, definitely happy to get this in. You're getting joke:1 pot odds too, no way you can ever fold.

Edit: flop sizing is fine too imo



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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2011, 06:40:17 PM »

Cheers guys.

Yeah I took my time and realised I couldn't fold (even though I had a huge gut feeling that his heater was continuing and that I was drawing dead).

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