Nut low house

[zerofive]

pretty much always peeling pre and definitely betting the flop.

Feel like suited connectors are where I might be burning a lot of money, especially when I flop pairs I know I have a tendency to butcher it. if we're betting the flop, we're barrelling any turn card heads up and giving up multi way unless we improve? Or do you still barrel into two players?

[cambridgealex]

pretty much always peeling pre and definitely betting the flop.

Feel like suited connectors are where I might be burning a lot of money, especially when I flop pairs I know I have a tendency to butcher it. if we're betting the flop, we're barrelling any turn card heads up and giving up multi way unless we improve? Or do you still barrel into two players?

pretty much always giving up with more than one caller. if only one, then the cards to barrel/ when to shut down depend massively on who it is and what you think they have.

as a general rule, I wouldn't be barrelling cards like Q or T or 2, 3 for obvious reasons. Vs guys that miight peel one off with 66 you could bet again on almost any card if you think they might fold. and J or K or 9 or 8 aren't great cards to bet cos they hit the callers range fairly hard (giving him 2pair, straights, pair+gutter, pair + openender).

I'd probably be barrelling any club though even if it was one of those cards because our equity is so much better now we won't have to get a fold nearly as often.

So i'd be betting any club, 4, 5, A, 6, 7 about half the deck i guess. give or take a bit depending on who it is.

[muckthenuts]

pretty much always peeling pre and definitely betting the flop.

Feel like suited connectors are where I might be burning a lot of money, especially when I flop pairs I know I have a tendency to butcher it. if we're betting the flop, we're barrelling any turn card heads up and giving up multi way unless we improve? Or do you still barrel into two players?

I discussed this at length with a fr msnl online player i had a chat with a while back and he basically said it will be a leak in the long run in a £1-2 game. You flop gin so rarely and there's really no guarantee of getting stacks in when you do. I only really peel in lp with cheap multiway pots (£6 would be too much here imo) and open fold them in ep-mp, and i think my winrate is better for it about a year later.

I'd probably start letting these go and seeing how your results change.

[cambridgealex]

multiway its hard to make them profitable, but isoing, 3betting IP, getting it HU or 3way, u dont need to flop gin to win the hand

[muckthenuts]

multiway its hard to make them profitable, but isoing, 3betting IP, getting it HU or 3way, u dont need to flop gin to win the hand

yeah this is all going to happen in lp and thats fine ofc.

[DMorgan]

Obv once I call turn, I can't fold river.

For this to be true you have to be sure that his turn and river ranges are exactly the same. The AQ hand that you mentioned where he bet/bet/checks suggests that he's doesn't really have the tendency to overplay top pair hands so he's not showing up with KQ/AQ here imo, but if he did I think theres a good chance that he checks this river. He also sometimes gives up on his bluffs, so the river is an entirely separate decision which is why I said that in a vacuum given reads the turn is a fold and the river even more so.

[SuuPRlim]

folding pre is better than calling and calling pre is ok.