Get off my Train

[millidonk]

I've been to Linlithgow, could think of better platforms to be chucked on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16159878



Respect the guy for doing this, probs wouldn't have the bottle myself, the wee skally could have a knife or anything. Feel sorry for the ticket collector, bet there are loads of them who go through this daily.

[The_nun]

Yes I can honestly say there are not many days that go by when far worse than this occurs.

[ManuelsMum]

Fare's fare.

[smashedagain]

Think I here someone at the end say there is no need for that, like the guy is wrong

[mulhuzz]

i think it's a bit much.

not that he removes him, but the point where he basically body slams him..

[DMorgan]

Thats Scotland for you

Harsh but fare

[paulhouk03]

so unneccessary

[mondatoo]

Not really sure what there is to respect ? He sure would have done this if he wasn't three times his size and twice his age, basically just seems like a bully. Not saying it's ok to not pay for a ticket but really can't see the need for him to do that at all.

[MintTrav]

Respect for the bully? It was nothing to do with him - he should have let the Ticket Inspector deal with it. I lost my ticket last year and the Inspector just took my details and I paid a penalty fare afterwards [I had paid btw]. There was no need for the cantankerous Inspector to hold up the train - he could have taken details. Putting someone with no money off a train by force part-way through a journey at night is hardly the way to deal with it. If you watch the full video you see that more violence was used that is shown in the shorter version and the teenager was thrown to the ground three times, very roughly the second time. I hope that both the bully and the Inspector are prosecuted.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073660/Big-Man-Scotrail-ticket-video-Alan-Pollock-throws-fare-dodger-Sam-Main-train.html

[action man]

you can't go swearing like that when there are families and kids about. So what if the big fella ejects him, the conductor wasnt capable of it but he wanted him off, his cuts are for justice for his behaviour. Even if it is bullying, bullying on one occasion >>>>>> guy swearing in public and deciding not to pay for the train. He will pay from now on, lesson learnt. when i was acting up as a kid my dad slapping my arse wasnt bullying, and no, he wouldnt have done it to someone who was bigger than him.

[cambridgealex]

Fare's fare.

very nice

Thats Scotland for you

Harsh but fare

Old news

[Acidmouse]

Respect for the bully? It was nothing to do with him - he should have let the Ticket Inspector deal with it. I lost my ticket last year and the Inspector just took my details and I paid a penalty fare afterwards [I had paid btw]. There was no need for the cantankerous Inspector to hold up the train - he could have taken details. Putting someone with no money off a train by force part-way through a journey at night is hardly the way to deal with it. If you watch the full video you see that more violence was used that is shown in the shorter version and the teenager was thrown to the ground three times, very roughly the second time. I hope that both the bully and the Inspector are prosecuted.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073660/Big-Man-Scotrail-ticket-video-Alan-Pollock-throws-fare-dodger-Sam-Main-train.html

Huge difference between paying the penalty and continuing telling him to fuk off infront of familes.

[millidonk]

The guy is hardly a bully, I seriously doubt he got on the train with the intention of causing harm to anyone. The conductor was clearly not capable of handling the situation himself and the fare dodger was effing and blinding and acting in a genuinely threatening manner towards him, so the big guy did what he and many others felt was right. I'm sure if the big guy was the conductor himself then the fare dodger wouldn't act up to him like this in the first place. He got what he deserved and the round of applause from fellow passengers at the end is more than deserved, imo of course. I can honestly say I would have been clapping along with them.

Giving the dodgers an on the spot fine is pointless. They don't end up paying, the fine accumulates then they end up contacting the person in question and offering to write off the debt for 10-50% of the original amount...

Heard a radio interview with the accused dodger's father who wasn't best pleased and claimed his son is a student who had bought the wrong ticket. If you don't have a ticket or the correct ticket get off the train. Simple. The conductor shouldn't have to listen to every single person try and explain why they haven't got a ticket. It is black and white. Also from the dialogue it seemed the train had been waiting there for quite some time, why should every other single person on the train have to be held up because some chancer wants to save a couple of quid.

All that a side if the dodger hadn't decided to start swearing and all that and had tried to explain himself in a calm and coherent manner (hard for a jock I know) then the outcome could have been very different.

The conductors are entitled to call for police assistance if they feel necessary but i seriously doubt there would have been any on hand at  Linlithgow. It could have gone down a little something like this:

(Eso Kral on a train???)

[Rod Paradise]

The guy is hardly a bully, I seriously doubt he got on the train with the intention of causing harm to anyone. The conductor was clearly not capable of handling the situation himself and the fare dodger was effing and blinding and acting in a genuinely threatening manner towards him, so the big guy did what he and many others felt was right. I'm sure if the big guy was the conductor himself then the fare dodger wouldn't act up to him like this in the first place. He got what he deserved and the round of applause from fellow passengers at the end is more than deserved, imo of course. I can honestly say I would have been clapping along with them.

Giving the dodgers an on the spot fine is pointless. They don't end up paying, the fine accumulates then they end up contacting the person in question and offering to write off the debt for 10-50% of the original amount...

Heard a radio interview with the accused dodger's father who wasn't best pleased and claimed his son is a student who had bought the wrong ticket. If you don't have a ticket or the correct ticket get off the train. Simple. The conductor shouldn't have to listen to every single person try and explain why they haven't got a ticket. It is black and white. Also from the dialogue it seemed the train had been waiting there for quite some time, why should every other single person on the train have to be held up because some chancer wants to save a couple of quid.

All that a side if the dodger hadn't decided to start swearing and all that and had tried to explain himself in a calm and coherent manner (hard for a jock I know) then the outcome could have been very different.

The conductors are entitled to call for police assistance if they feel necessary but i seriously doubt there would have been any on hand at  Linlithgow. It could have gone down a little something like this:

(Eso Kral on a train???)

Sitting there and saying you'll wait (presumably for the Transport Police the guard should have called) is acting in a genuinely threatening manner? FFS.

Can sympathise with the guy who rag-dolled the kid off the train, I totally understand it, but he took it a bit far.

Guard handled the thing deplorably from what we saw.

Having lost a ticket while changing trains at Birmingham & despite showing the receipt, the ticket down to Reading from 2 days before & having a ticket from Bracknell to Reading that got me to Reading in time for the last train that would get me on to the service to Glasgow that I was on the Guard was for turfing me off at Crewe. No suggestion of taking details and me paying later, nothing but cough up or be turfed off and find accommodation for the night. If I hadn't had the work credit card I'd have given serious thought to getting lifted - at least I'd have got a bed for the night.

[millidonk]

Having lost a ticket while changing trains at Birmingham & despite showing the receipt, the ticket down to Reading from 2 days before & having a ticket from Bracknell to Reading that got me to Reading in time for the last train that would get me on to the service to Glasgow that I was on the Guard was for turfing me off at Crewe. No suggestion of taking details and me paying later, nothing but cough up or be turfed off and find accommodation for the night. If I hadn't had the work credit card I'd have given serious thought to getting lifted - at least I'd have got a bed for the night.

Obv take better care of your ticket.. It happens to everyone I lost my ticket going from Newcastle to London at Newcastle, FML, i had my seat reservation stub but couldn't find the ticket. Had to pay £120 I think it was.
[  ] I moaned
[  ] I started swearing and saying i will sit here all night
[  ] I got chucked off the train
[  ] I inconvenienced any other passengers
[ x ] It was completely my own fault
[ x ] I went and bought 8 Stellas and had an ok journey

The guy is doing his job, he must have to put with this shit day in day out. Show a valid ticket or gtfo, no exceptions.

On a similiar note, i have wondered what happens if you get to a bridge toll or similiar and don't have any money or cards?