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« on: December 20, 2011, 05:11:20 PM »

Monte Carlo day 3. 12/13 players left, we're 6/7 handed. Can't remember, sorry.

Started the day on 630k and been battered for the first hour and a half and dropped to about 230k

In a tough spot with huge aggro stack BB to my cut off + decent player BB to my hj.

I've been pretty tight but made a few raises just in case I happen to get something. Been 3 bet every time by the aggro big stack + 5 bet once when I made a stand hence the stack issues now.

So the hand in question....

I've got 230k, blinds 8k, 16k + 2k

Folds to me in the cut off and I've got 

What should I do?

a - fold

b - raise / fold

c - raise / snap (fold to sb or button who're much tighter)

d - shove and hope nobody's got anything.

I elected to do a fold but hated myself bitterly for it. I was conscious of preserving my FE and also like I said I was feeling particularly beaten up at the time. I had a feeling the huge stack sensed this beaten feeling hence my thoughts on possible raise / snap.

Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 05:13:07 PM »

Easy ship

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 05:14:53 PM »

Its a Jam for me
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 05:22:08 PM »

Sigh....

First instinct was ship when I saw 2 such beautiful cards then I got all weak and mofo like.

End thread please Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 05:22:53 PM »

very happy about jamming here
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 05:25:37 PM »

I jam, Guy Johnson raise folds, anything else he says he does is just a lie!
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 05:26:30 PM »

2 broadway cards =ship.
2 broadway cards in clover = do a little dance then ship
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2011, 05:27:02 PM »

very happy about jamming here
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2011, 05:39:44 PM »

I jam, Guy Johnson raise folds, anything else he says he does is just a lie!

No more free lessons if you continue to spread these scurrilous lies!   
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2011, 05:47:26 PM »

shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s here with this stack
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2011, 06:31:13 PM »

shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s any high green cards here with this stack


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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2011, 06:47:13 PM »

Yeah was amazed with myself for passing.

Definitely due to feeling 'beaten up'. Normally they'd have been in the middle pretty quick.

Any thoughts on raise calling given what I said about the aggro stack?

Pretty sure his calling range is pretty much restricted to everything that beats us whereas his shove range includes a lot more besides? 99% certain he doesn't have a flatting range other than maybe AA and KK.

If we're happy to get it in anyway should we be adding a few hands to his range?
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2011, 06:59:39 PM »



Any thoughts on raise calling given what I said about the aggro stack?

Nah i don't think it'll fool too many people plus you want to be balanced for the times you'll shove as a bluff
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2011, 11:26:07 PM »

Yeah was amazed with myself for passing.

Definitely due to feeling 'beaten up'. Normally they'd have been in the middle pretty quick.

Any thoughts on raise calling given what I said about the aggro stack?

Pretty sure his calling range is pretty much restricted to everything that beats us whereas his shove range includes a lot more besides? 99% certain he doesn't have a flatting range other than maybe AA and KK.

If we're happy to get it in anyway should we be adding a few hands to his range?

by jamming he folds all the stuff we flip vs and lots of small aces that are ahead. Basically we put pressure on him, we've made a good play and we are going to make him post a PHA thread 2 days later about this muscly medium weak baldy guy who has an undefined range and is jammin from LP.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2011, 01:45:59 AM »

It is a deffo a shove and would have thought it is unexploitable (without looking) as well.
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