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pleno1
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28 pages on 2p2..
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December 23, 2011, 09:17:21 PM »
Faraz Jaka moves all-in from under the gun for 68,000 and Vanessa Rousso then raises to 120,000. Joe Tehan then asks Rousso how much she has behind and proceeds to move all-in.
Rousso looks around and says "Five handed, I don't think I can fold this."
She turns to Jaka and asks "How do you feel about this?".
Jaka replies with "I am just having fun watching."
Rousso then announces call and they turn over:
Jaka - AA
Rousso - QQ
Tehan - 42
The flop comes down 964 and Jaka maintains his lead with Rousso still ahead in the side pot.
However, the turn is the 4 and suddenly Tehan has a huge lead.
The river is the 10 and Tehan knocks both players out with trip fours.
With 12 players remaining and now in the money, play has concluded for the day.
Tehan - 1,142,000
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Not sure of blinds.....but Vanessa started with 300k total (and had already put in 120k) and had around average stack (several were shorter).
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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December 23, 2011, 09:22:10 PM »
Yeah its lol bad. 28 pages of nothing
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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December 23, 2011, 09:42:01 PM »
24 call is good BECAUSE HE WON
you gotta learn dem live poker skillz pleeeeno.
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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Quote from: titaniumbean on December 23, 2011, 09:42:01 PM
24 call is good BECAUSE HE WON
you gotta learn dem live poker skillz pleeeeno.
he jammed u lol bad live pro run bad over 17 tournamnets fish
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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December 23, 2011, 10:24:50 PM »
cliffs of the discussion?
what's to discuss anyway?
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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December 23, 2011, 10:28:35 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on December 23, 2011, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: titaniumbean on December 23, 2011, 09:42:01 PM
24 call is good BECAUSE HE WON
you gotta learn dem live poker skillz pleeeeno.
he jammed u lol bad live pro run bad over 17 tournamnets fish
jam= aggressive call.
42o outplayed dem overpair fishes.
RISKING IT ALL ON WAN PAIR ONRY. FEWWWWLS
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December 23, 2011, 10:39:54 PM »
Now I'm not the greatest player in the world, but Rousso's explanation of the hand was mind-boggling imo.
She said she raised in order to be able to fold. She said she felt she was really, really good at live tells and wanted the chance to be able to get away from the hand. Given that, when the biggest stack at the table shoves, why is it she then says, "well I wasn't intending on folding this hand, I call"? Despite Tehan showing down a complete pile of filth, if you were ever going to put in 40% of your stack with the notion that you can actually fold QQ in that spot (lol?) surely when the biggest stack re-shoves you should actually be folding?
It's not as if she snapped him off so she clearly wasn't trying to induce.
I'm just confused full stop.
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Quote from: Solaris on December 23, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
Now I'm not the greatest player in the world, but Rousso's explanation of the hand was mind-boggling imo.
She said she raised in order to be able to fold. She said she felt she was really, really good at live tells and wanted the chance to be able to get away from the hand. Given that, when the biggest stack at the table shoves, why is it she then says, "well I wasn't intending on folding this hand, I call"? Despite Tehan showing down a complete pile of filth, if you were ever going to put in 40% of your stack with the notion that you can actually fold QQ in that spot (lol?) surely when the biggest stack re-shoves you should actually be folding?
It's not as if she snapped him off so she clearly wasn't trying to induce.
I'm just confused full stop.
live poker met, don't try and understand it.
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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Quote from: Solaris on December 23, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
Now I'm not the greatest player in the world, but Rousso's explanation of the hand was mind-boggling imo.
She said she raised in order to be able to fold. She said she felt she was really, really good at live tells and wanted the chance to be able to get away from the hand. Given that, when the biggest stack at the table shoves, why is it she then says, "well I wasn't intending on folding this hand, I call"? Despite Tehan showing down a complete pile of filth, if you were ever going to put in 40% of your stack with the notion that you can actually fold QQ in that spot (lol?) surely when the biggest stack re-shoves you should actually be folding?
It's not as if she snapped him off so she clearly wasn't trying to induce.
I'm just confused full stop.
I understand the logic completely, however it is complete bollocks.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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December 24, 2011, 01:35:12 AM »
Only 5 pages for me, about half a page of "wtf is he thinking? how can this be profitable?" and 4.5 pages of how terrible Tehan is and how he could just be a scammer by selling pieces at markup for these tourneys knowing how bad he is.
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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Quote from: pleno1 on December 23, 2011, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: Solaris on December 23, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
Now I'm not the greatest player in the world, but Rousso's explanation of the hand was mind-boggling imo.
She said she raised in order to be able to fold. She said she felt she was really, really good at live tells and wanted the chance to be able to get away from the hand. Given that, when the biggest stack at the table shoves, why is it she then says, "well I wasn't intending on folding this hand, I call"? Despite Tehan showing down a complete pile of filth, if you were ever going to put in 40% of your stack with the notion that you can actually fold QQ in that spot (lol?) surely when the biggest stack re-shoves you should actually be folding?
It's not as if she snapped him off so she clearly wasn't trying to induce.
I'm just confused full stop.
I understand the logic completely, however it is complete bollocks.
When you say you understand the logic, is it fair to assume that you "understand the logic" were she to either snap call or snap fold? I find it bizarre that any pro could raise to 40% of their stack with QQ and consider folding. Would love to hear one of you guys explain that to me (assuming I'm completely wrong).
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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December 24, 2011, 02:53:27 AM »
Even when I'm trying to induce someone I don't snap them off. Why let them know? Plus I don't ever snap anything when the decisions are worth tens of thousands
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Re: 28 pages on 2p2..
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Quote from: Solaris on December 24, 2011, 01:58:49 AM
Quote from: pleno1 on December 23, 2011, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: Solaris on December 23, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
Now I'm not the greatest player in the world, but Rousso's explanation of the hand was mind-boggling imo.
She said she raised in order to be able to fold. She said she felt she was really, really good at live tells and wanted the chance to be able to get away from the hand. Given that, when the biggest stack at the table shoves, why is it she then says, "well I wasn't intending on folding this hand, I call"? Despite Tehan showing down a complete pile of filth, if you were ever going to put in 40% of your stack with the notion that you can actually fold QQ in that spot (lol?) surely when the biggest stack re-shoves you should actually be folding?
It's not as if she snapped him off so she clearly wasn't trying to induce.
I'm just confused full stop.
I understand the logic completely, however it is complete bollocks.
When you say you understand the logic, is it fair to assume that you "understand the logic" were she to either snap call or snap fold? I find it bizarre that any pro could raise to 40% of their stack with QQ and consider folding. Would love to hear one of you guys explain that to me (assuming I'm completely wrong).
I think she was intending to raise/decide as she feels she is good with live tells and wanted to leave enough room to fold which is kinda lol, if she is gonna X/decide then surely the best play is to flat her full range?
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Quote from: skolsuper on December 24, 2011, 02:53:27 AM
Even when I'm trying to induce someone I don't snap them off. Why let them know? Plus I don't ever snap anything when the decisions are worth tens of thousands
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December 24, 2011, 04:03:13 PM »
I'm not gunna work it out myself, I'm sure someone on 2p2 somewhere has worked out how often she needs to fold for this to be +EV. When he folds though, Tehan is almost freerolling vs Jaka's hand with the size of the side pot.
fwiw I reckon Rousso is smart enough to be playing dumb here
Open jamming the AA for 18 bigs is probably the worst play in this hand
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