FML river spot with set

[cambridgealex]

3 bet pre is pretty awful

why is 3betting TT bad in this spot?

probs cos a nits opened utg

[rbc_mike]

Utg+1 isn't it? Do you think that makes much of a difference?

[cambridgealex]

Utg+1 isn't it? Do you think that makes much of a difference?

oh wait i thought this was a different hand.

villain is utg+1 yr right and he;s not a nit at all. can't see what's wrong with 3betting really.

[skolsuper]

Utg+1 isn't it? Do you think that makes much of a difference?

oh wait i thought this was a different hand.

villain is utg+1 yr right and he;s not a nit at all. can't see what's wrong with 3betting really.

you fold out everything worse, nothing better, and you ought to have a very good reason to 3bet when calling is eminently profitable.

[muckthenuts]

Utg+1 isn't it? Do you think that makes much of a difference?

oh wait i thought this was a different hand.

villain is utg+1 yr right and he;s not a nit at all. can't see what's wrong with 3betting really.

Solid players will fold most hands < TT to a 3bet and if we aren't 5bet getting it in vs this guy then flatting > raising.

I'd bet flop, with the amount you've played with this guy you've got to make sure you're quite balanced here. You should bet basically your entire range including all your light 3bets through to the nizzles.

[TheFallen]

given its utg vs utg+1 and you dindn't say that hes a maniac (or he views you as one), I think the river is a call. Except for the odd stubborn AK, i'm not sure what he'd call the raise with and you're pretty much at/just below the bottom of you range to raise given the action.

once he re-raised i'd be far too tilted to fold :-D

[SuuPRlim]

once he re-raised i'd be far too tilted to fold :-D

yup. summed it up imp

[Gazza]

Utg+1 isn't it? Do you think that makes much of a difference?

oh wait i thought this was a different hand.

villain is utg+1 yr right and he;s not a nit at all. can't see what's wrong with 3betting really.

you fold out everything worse, nothing better, and you ought to have a very good reason to 3bet when calling is eminently profitable.

Not saying I would 3bet 100% of the time in this spot, but there's definitely reason to do so.  He peeled a 4b with A2s being the major reason. He's obviously a weak player that you can isolate and play in position and you're very unlikely to get 4 bet bluffed. You're not folding out 99, 88, AQ, KQs, AJs, KJs and judging by the note quite a few other suited combos.

[cambridgealex]

his peel of A2suited was actually alright vs me in that spot iirc.

[Gazza]

his peel of A2suited was actually alright vs me in that spot iirc.

With 90bb? Genuinely curious as to the spot, as flatting 4bets is not something I do often but I do know there are cases for it.

[cambridgealex]

his peel of A2suited was actually alright vs me in that spot iirc.

With 90bb? Genuinely curious as to the spot, as flatting 4bets is not something I do often but I do know there are cases for it.

think i opened MP $6 he 3b btn to $14, I 4b to $31, I flatted ip with $160 behind. probably alright, prefer shoving ldo, perfect hand to do it with

[SuuPRlim]

his peel of A2suited was actually alright vs me in that spot iirc.

With 90bb? Genuinely curious as to the spot, as flatting 4bets is not something I do often but I do know there are cases for it.

think i opened MP $6 he 3b btn to $14, I 4b to $31, I flatted ip with $160 behind. probably alright, prefer shoving ldo, perfect hand to do it with

  ,  ,  not better hands

[SuuPRlim]

also that peel sounds awful, ? he;s rolling his face on the keys there imo fold>shove>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call can't see it being remotely close

[Gazza]

also that peel sounds awful, ? he;s rolling his face on the keys there imo fold>shove>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call can't see it being remotely close

that was my thinking.

[cambridgealex]

also that peel sounds awful, ? he;s rolling his face on the keys there imo fold>shove>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call can't see it being remotely close

that was my thinking.

hah yr probably right. though vs me shove>call>fold lol