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« Reply #135 on: February 22, 2012, 06:46:26 AM »

Ouch. Fantastic attitude though Tracey. If you can meet with triumph & disaster...

I'm sure you'll knock 'em dead next time.
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« Reply #136 on: February 22, 2012, 09:24:38 AM »

Every standup has died plenty of times - you did quite well to get to number 5 before it happened to you, most have it happen before then.
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« Reply #137 on: February 22, 2012, 08:12:56 PM »

Every standup has died plenty of times - you did quite well to get to number 5 before it happened to you, most have it happen before then.

Yes - agree - thank you. I think I know exactly why it happened which is good. But I do need to get back on the horse pretty quickly, naturally I am feeling more nervous about the next time. I am just annoyed it happened in front of a complete bearded wanker. Hey ho. Actually it should be more High ho - he did look like one of the 7 dwarfs.
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« Reply #138 on: February 22, 2012, 08:37:47 PM »

nice to hear that that chef bloke is getting out and about after his recent troubles.
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« Reply #139 on: February 26, 2012, 11:21:44 AM »

Not much to report on the comedy front - all quiet until next Friday when I have 3 very close together that weekend.  Had one of my favourite 'celeb' clients in yesterday who has 1) some great story lines coming up and 2) is doing something completely bonkers next week I can't talk about but am busting to. There are times when I hate confidentiality. If it all goes to plan it will be an OK/Hello! story and she has promised me a pic. So far the best I have had in the glossy mags is the back of my head and my foot - and that was in readers wives........not really. They refused to print any of my pics.

On Friday I had the day off to go to a funeral with my Dad, it was a long time friend of his. It seems especially poignant as my Dads cancer count has gone up and he gets his next results tomorrow which will confirm if it was just a blip or not good news. I know that we were both thinking that the next funeral might be his.  Really sad day, lovely church in Nazeing and not a dry eye in the house. After lunch at the local hostelry my Dad is still feeling a bit sad, we got in the car to drive home. "Lets put on a CD to cheer ourselves up" suggests my Dad.

He slips a cd in and we drive away to the sounds of Enya. FML. Did make us laugh though.

Got some great comedy ideas yesterday at work. I think I have the characters for the sketches about right now. Have to get down to some writing soon as the BBC have some workshops and writing comps coming up soon that I would like to give a go. I downloaded some free software from t'internet that is supposed to put in all the stuff like 'stage left' etc in the correct shorthand language when you're writing your script. So far my navigation of this software is as good as my navigation anywhere.

It still surprises me that so much of the stuff that is supposed to make our lives simpler is so complicated. Waiting at the post office is my new router for my new internet provider - Sky, I have to install it myself. The man on the phone said it was very simple. I may be off line for some time.
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« Reply #140 on: February 28, 2012, 01:55:25 PM »

yeeah - Sky connected - like everything it is simpleif you plug it into the correct holes.

Dad got his results yesterday and his count has gone down to 10 - it should be 3 ideally but for his age and the fact he has had a virus cold thing for the past few weeks they are very happy with that. He is delighted and you can hear in his voice that a weight has been lifted off his shoulders. I got the text from him as I was on to BT trying to sort out a problem with my line. I couldn't help crying with happiness and she thought I was crying because the line wasn't working. Doh.

So all good at Ding towers, next gig is the semi finals of the Laughing Horse competition on Friday at The Goat  near Green park. I've been there before and it's a small but fun room. TBH though at the moment it's of little importance, I want to go further with the comp but Dad's news is all I need.

Just started reading the Frank Skinner book as recommended here, it is a great read, loving every page.
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« Reply #141 on: February 28, 2012, 04:49:30 PM »


GREAT news on Dad, Miss D, & I'm sorry I missed the previous Post, you must have been beside yourself with worry.

Good luck with the weekend gigs, too.
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« Reply #142 on: February 29, 2012, 12:01:13 PM »

Oh man, I'm soooooo glad to hear about your Dad's results!  {{{Hugs}}}
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« Reply #143 on: March 03, 2012, 01:19:02 AM »

Just a quick trip report – didn’t get through tonight to the next round of the Laughing Horse comp but I was not at all surprised. As soon as I arrived I realised the game was up – I literally bumped into the current hot streak in amateur comedy who has just left Uni having won every student comedy comp going and is now tearing it up throughout the circuit, he hasn’t entered a comp he hasn’t won or finalled in so his past record is impressive. His humour is a dry and morose and the audiences enjoy it.

It was a massive comp – there were 16 acts and only 3 went through – we drew for places and I got 14th. By the time it got to me the audience were suffering from comedy fatigue and the energy in the room was low.

My set was ok, I put in some new stuff which worked ok but I bottled out of doing the rude stuff. And on reflection that was a mistake, it may have lifted the room a bit.

I met some really interesting people and had some good chats. I found out that the guy who hosted my last gig, the one I died at, is a massive OCD person and he doesn’t like being touched so when I went to shake his hand it will have really freaked him out. He also isn’t a big fan of women in comedy but books us because he has to show some diversity.

Talking of diversity the winners tonight were the dour Welsh student, a married American lesbian and a comedy singing duo who the audience loved but the other comedians didn’t. There is a great divide between the purists and other performers. The purists don’t think that guitars and singing should be classed as comedy, they think it’s a cheat to use the ‘six string laughter track’ which is what they call the guitar. As a non singing, non playing comedian I agree with the purists. The comp I am in on Sunday has a separate section for the comedy singing acts, so the purists are happy.

Received a text from my Dad tonight telling me he had bought me a satnav, he was tired of me getting lost and arriving home late. I was thinking about this on the way home and trying to work out when I could pop in to see him and pick it up. This lack of concentration led to me missing my exit for the M1 so I said hello to Collingdale, Hendon, Edgeware and Stanmore before picking up signs for the M1 and making my way home. Probably the last time that will happen. I have to say I’ve enjoyed my unintentional jaunts and detours, the life you witness in the early hours of the morning is a people watchers paradise and following in the footsteps of Mr K I may have to start taking a few pics along the way.

No regrets or disappointment from tonight. I played Paulo in the car just as I came into Northampton just because I like the tune. It was a good night, even if only because it was a Friday night and I was out and about.

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« Reply #144 on: March 08, 2012, 09:03:04 PM »


Are you a fan of Sarah Millican?....she was interviewed on Five live/ wednesday,(I caught the end of it)

23 mins in:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b01d0rxk/Richard_Bacon_07_03_2012
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« Reply #145 on: March 09, 2012, 12:51:48 AM »


Are you a fan of Sarah Millican?....she was interviewed on Five live/ wednesday,(I caught the end of it)

23 mins in:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b01d0rxk/Richard_Bacon_07_03_2012

Thanks – I’ll have a look at that.  Bit of a long one coming up but just putting some thoughts down as I go.....

I’ve finished the Frank Skinner book and loved every word of it.
Cliffs: he’s a Catholic comedian who has a very jealous girlfriend. Prior to meeting her he had a different girl every night on tour and mostly shagged them up the arse. He never reads any reviews of his shows because he obsesses about them and he has an enormous inner critic which means he is never satisfied with any of his work. His total belief in his religion yet his scant regard for morality surprised me. (Cue all the catholic priest jokes)

My secret comedian crush is on a well-known comedian who is a Christian and I’m sure part of his appeal to me is that I was thinking he was a good boy who didn’t have a girl in every theatre. I may have to rethink my obsessive crush and rather than just worship him from afar I should stalk him and see what he’s up to. It’s a bit of a double edged sword that one;  if I find he is a good boy then no amount of me following him around will probably change that, and if he is a complete slag on tour I don’t want to know him anyway. I don’t think anyone wins that one.

Back to the Skinner book…..As a woman I was so pleased to read about a man opening himself up to self doubt and worry about a relationship, I didn’t think that men did that. And if I had been his girlfriend I would have stopped being jealous once I’d read the book, it was an homage to how much he loved her and wanted them to be in a committed relationship. At the end of the book he gave her a key to his flat. It was like a real life Bridget Jones moment.

The downside of the book is the complete lack of confidence Frank has in himself and I could feel myself mirroring this as I got deeper into the book. All I kept on thinking was ‘if he gets nervous what hope have I got?’ Not just because of his book but I know I have a much greater lack of confidence now than when I started in November.

It reminds me a bit of when you first start playing poker. In the beginning you win because you have no fear, mainly because you don’t know the difference between good and bad, and that inner confidence carries you through and convinces the table you have a hand so they fold and you rake in the chips. As time goes on you realise how little you know, the confidence wanes a bit and the results drop too.

I have more trepidation about going on stage now than before and this gets communicated to the audience who react accordingly. An audience needs to have confidence in you from the moment you step out. At the moment I am still coughing well from a cold I had a few weeks ago, sometimes so badly that at regular intervals I may, as ladies of a certain age do, leak a bit when a particularly violent coughing fit takes over. So on Sunday, when the hot room had done its worst and I had coughed my guts up in the dressing room I’m pretty sure that the audience could sense my nervousness not just from the look in my eyes but from the unmistakable smell of wee that had seeped into my jeans.

Before the comp started it was nice to find that I know a few people now, one of the guys from the Richmond gig came over and starting chatting, he then introduced me to some other people and before I knew it I was in a temporary clique. I sat listening to them all measuring each others ball size as they compared notes as to who was doing what at Edinburgh. I am learning to take some of this with a pinch of salt, one of the guys was boasting that at a gig he did on Friday he got approached by a promoter who has offered him some paid work. As I was at the same gig, no promoters were in the room and he and I left at the same time. Good try buddy.

Having heard his set on Friday and Sunday it was exactly the same and got very different reactions each night. I remember thinking on Friday that one of his jokes deserved a better response and on Sunday it got it. I think to an errant gambler like me the uncertainty of the audience’s reaction and the testing of new material is as close to playing poker as it gets. One day aces are a certainty to win and the next night the flop gives the other guy a straight. It’s a fascinating and addictive hobby.

Sundays gig was at the Hen & Chickens in Islington. It was raining, a lot. I got there first time sans the sat nav as it hasn’t arrived yet. Probably lost. As always you have to judge a venue by the loos although with my cough/weeing issues I don’t need to visit them as much as I used to. In this case the coughing is a benefit as the loos are 2 small cubicles without locks or loo paper. The electric hand dryer looks out of place as there isn’t any soap but I run my hands under it in the hope that some of the air might waft down to my groin area.

This was a competition, well organised, filmed, bookers in the audience, a good gig run by the Ann Robinson of comedy, Hils Jago. As previously mentioned I like her direct approach “comedy is a business”. Her pre performance brief opened with “Don’t put your bags on the floor, there are mice in the building and we have seen at least 1 today in the dressing room”. I had a half eaten Mars bar in my bag and I didn’t know whether to eat it straight away on the grounds of health, safety and hygiene or to keep it for the journey home.

Ann warned us that the lighting was set up for a play that was running during the week and it was slightly weird. In most gigs I have done you can either see the audience as if you are in your own living room with them or the lights are so bright that you perform to a wall of darkness and listen for the laughs or rustle of the mars bars wrappers to judge how you are doing. On Sunday it was a wall of darkness apart from one man on the left, 2 rows deep who was perfectly lit as if he was a contestant on a game show waiting to hear if he had been eliminated or had got through to the next round. As I write this I realise that I should have opened with this observation rather than hitting them hard with 2 mins of blow job anecdotes, even Frank softens them up with a few family laughs before bringing the smut in.

 In an effort to conquer my fear of the audience I talked at him, (the man in the audience not Frank Skinner) and he didn’t crack a smile throughout my set. In fact halfway through it would have been quite ironic if my spotlight had gone out and just left him lit as I’m pretty sure he could have done a better job. That’s not to say I didn’t get laughs, I did. But I used some new untested bits which seemed funny in my head, some of it was not everything. The golden rule is never use new stuff in a competition but as the blowjob stuff hadn’t gone down as well as it should have done (no pun intended) I think it was wise to miss out the labia lips stuff and try something new. Trust me on this, it was a good call.

All in all it was ok, but I needed time to regroup and rewrite so I dodged my next gig on the Monday. Good decision. This week I have emptied my house, had one very large bonfire, sorted and chucked a lot of stuff and cleaned the house from top to bottom and them moved. I think another 4 hour round trip to do 5 mins was a bit ambitious.

Before I left Islington I asked Ann how I could help myself with the fear of the audience. She asked me how many gigs I had done and when I answered ‘7’ she looked incredulously at me as only Ann would do and said “put a nought on the end of that and them come back and ask for advice’ If you are still scared after 70 we’ll have a chat’. In other words just get on with it.

On another positive note I forgot about the Mars bar until the next day so it was an unexpected bit of chocolate which always makes it all the more enjoyable. Unlike the scheduled chocolate breaks that I put in the diary which are more of a retirement plan, I have to have regular excessive amounts of chocolate if I want to be a diabetic, have a leg removed and get on the social. As a self employed person without a pension I have to plan ahead.

Frank describes going on stage as ‘Dr Theatre’ as the adrenalin keeps any illness at bay until you come off stage. It’s true, when I’m in front of an audience I don’t cough at all. Tonight I’ve done a wash of all that needed washing, put the heating on so that the radiators can dry it all. The irony being that the house is now too warm, causing me to cough and we start all over again.

I have a fair few gigs in the diary, I’m going to try for some nearer to home and we’ll keep plugging away.
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« Reply #146 on: March 09, 2012, 01:41:57 AM »

Do you do any venues nearer Peterborough / Northampton area ? We used to have a great club in Peterborough a few years ago saw a lot of good acts there don't know if it's still going ? Think it was " the gaslight "
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« Reply #147 on: March 09, 2012, 07:16:46 AM »


Trouper!

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« Reply #148 on: March 09, 2012, 11:03:09 AM »

Glad you liked the Skinner book, a must read for any comedian imo.

If anything, it is a bit too anx ridden, you just want to slap him and say belt up!

Have you read his biography? Its really funny.
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« Reply #149 on: March 09, 2012, 11:25:29 AM »

Have you read the Stewart Lee books on his gigs. They have a huge amount of footnotes based around his routines, he really obsesses over the little details.
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