€3-6NL 6max On Microgaming network Turn Raise and river sizing?

[ih8winning]

lmao I think its quite funny how much people pick hands apart that everythings bad but ive been beating these games for a year now. I bet half pot on the river and he jammed with  So I guess considering river sizing was a good idea.....

[ih8winning]

if you even need to consider river sizing i suggest you move down limits

what limits do you play? Strong statement....

[pleno1]

lmao I think its quite funny how much people pick hands apart that everythings bad but ive been beating these games for a year now. I bet half pot on the river and he jammed with  So I guess considering river sizing was a good idea.....

what my sizing should be? theres $843 He has like €785

ahhhhhhhhh thats why, the old dollar, euro trick. What you like huh?

[sm00035]

So were 5 handed eff stacks are €1200 I open cutoff with €15 villan 3bets €34 Blinds fold, I call flop 9h6h2c I check call €48 turn is the I thought of leading here but ive played a little with him before and he likes to barrel alot and push his thin value hands turn he bets €140 I CR to €335 thoughts? seeing as sometimes im good when he has say AhXh and other heart draws and im planning on check calling sum rivers also bluffing some 2 i felt this was the best line, If he 3bet shoves im in a tough spot but i didnt expect that much at all. I think by raising this turn i get a bunch of better hands on the river to fold. He calls river is the thoughts here now as ive actually got there and what my sizing should be? theres $843 He has like €785

Hate your call pre, but post, I think it says a lot that I don't mind your play. I am probably bottam 20% of online cash players in the world. Obv check call the flop is standard, and I like check raising the turn but am defo check raising (check raise folding) turn more to like €380 just to make the river shove (shoving every river) more fluid being ~€740 into ~€933.

Not sure the point of the post of asking what the river sizing should be, kind of feels like its going to turn into a bb post where he turns up with ATcc etc

[SuuPRlim]

lmao I think its quite funny how much people pick hands apart that everythings bad but ive been beating these games for a year now. I bet half pot on the river and he jammed with  So I guess considering river sizing was a good idea.....

Well this statement is just completely retarded.

So the whole thread was a "i'm good enough to peel 3bets OOP with J9 and make sick river bets" brag was it? Thanks for wasting everyone's time pretending to want our opinions.

You have been beating the games for a year (lol btw) you know best   /thread.

GL "crushing" when it doesn't come club club....

[skolsuper]

if you even need to consider river sizing i suggest you move down limits

what limits do you play? Strong statement....

troll on troll violence

[sm00035]

lmao I think its quite funny how much people pick hands apart that everythings bad but ive been beating these games for a year now. I bet half pot on the river and he jammed with  So I guess considering river sizing was a good idea.....

Yeh it's really funny. Good job you did consider what to bet, I think that betting half pot is the only reason he went all in. Well played.

[ih8winning]

lmao I think its quite funny how much people pick hands apart that everythings bad but ive been beating these games for a year now. I bet half pot on the river and he jammed with  So I guess considering river sizing was a good idea.....

Well this statement is just completely retarded.

So the whole thread was a "i'm good enough to peel 3bets OOP with J9 and make sick river bets" brag was it? Thanks for wasting everyone's time pretending to want our opinions.

You have been beating the games for a year (lol btw) you know best   /thread.

GL "crushing" when it doesn't come club club....


Thanks I probably need It after how bad i played this hand... I did get totaly different responses on another forum mind.... I think shoving the river is fine 2 but betting half pot with bluffs and value hands is defo something to consider here....

[Dubai]

Link to other forum obv needed

[pleno1]

Link to other forum obv needed

[SuuPRlim]

Thanks I probably need It after how bad i played this hand... I did get totaly different responses on another forum mind.... I think shoving the river is fine 2 but betting half pot with bluffs and value hands is defo something to consider here....

I didn't say you played it badly. I said I think the call pre is far too loose and the turn c/r is non-optimal because we set fire to so much equity when (if he ever) jams - if you think he jams the turn never then great wp. not going to go into the river as you'll disagree with me and i cba but you obviously made a good vacuum decision so fine, wp

What has tilted me about this thread is you have posted "asking" for everyone's opinions told us were wrong, you're a lot better and then bragged about how well you played the hand. Makes the time everyone spent offering their analysis completely pointless not to mention being pretty bad mannered.

The thing i like about blonde PHA is that the in the high majority of threads, questions and people's opinions are set out in such a way that everyone, experienced, non-experienced, pro's and recreational players can all contribute together - I think it's a great tool that less experienced players get to discuss strategy with more experienced players. It's ultimately how you make that step up + improve (certainly how I did) and it's not without an upside for the more experienced player either, one of the most short-sighted and arrogant trends I see in poker is peole who don't think "worse" players than them can offer any benefit at all. I've learnt a lot about the game from people who I I might consider myself a better player than technically - this is why i refuse to post on 2+2 cos everyone is so fucking rude.

But then, I prolly couldn't even beat 3-6nl online so best to take my opinions with a pinch of salt.

[Mondeoman]

Calling the 3 bet pre is good (esp as it is so small)  I think if you're folding strong hands like j9s it's too exploitable to fold. Calling the flop is good. Raising the turn I hate as you pretty much fold out all his bluffs and potentially prevent yourself from seeing a river where you have 14 outs and also you have a draw you're opponent doesn't put you on.  It's strongly in your interests to see a river not only for your outs but also you can bluff any heart.

Having got to the river I think river sizing is important to consider and not enough players do consider this when they have less than river sized pot left.  Sometimes I bet 90% of my stack on the river and it's surprising how often you get curious calls as opponents can't see why you wouldn't just shove a value hand.   In this hand Im probably checking to raise as your opponent should be betting a lot of value hands and may continue on sone bluffs.

Don't know the poster of the hand but think he might have got defensive as his question  got treated by some as it was trivial and he got told rather dismissively to move down stakes.  Obv the whole hand is a bit of a brag but as a self confessed bragger I guess it doesnt bother me too much.

[George2Loose]

Calling the 3 bet pre is good (esp as it is so small)  I think if you're folding strong hands like j9s it's too exploitable to fold. Calling the flop is good. Raising the turn I hate as you pretty much fold out all his bluffs and potentially prevent yourself from seeing a river where you have 14 outs and also you have a draw you're opponent doesn't put you on.  It's strongly in your interests to see a river not only for your outs but also you can bluff any heart.

Having got to the river I think river sizing is important to consider and not enough players do consider this when they have less than river sized pot left.  Sometimes I bet 90% of my stack on the river and it's surprising how often you get curious calls as opponents can't see why you wouldn't just shove a value hand.   In this hand Im probably checking to raise as your opponent should be betting a lot of value hands and may continue on sone bluffs.

Don't know the poster of the hand but think he might have got defensive as his question  got treated by some as it was trivial and he got told rather dismissively to move down stakes.  Obv the whole hand is a bit of a brag but as a self confessed bragger I guess it doesnt bother me too much.

Interesting....

[SuuPRlim]

Calling the 3 bet pre is good (esp as it is so small)  I think if you're folding strong hands like j9s it's too exploitable to fold. Calling the flop is good. Raising the turn I hate as you pretty much fold out all his bluffs and potentially prevent yourself from seeing a river where you have 14 outs and also you have a draw you're opponent doesn't put you on.  It's strongly in your interests to see a river not only for your outs but also you can bluff any heart.

Having got to the river I think river sizing is important to consider and not enough players do consider this when they have less than river sized pot left.  Sometimes I bet 90% of my stack on the river and it's surprising how often you get curious calls as opponents can't see why you wouldn't just shove a value hand.   In this hand Im probably checking to raise as your opponent should be betting a lot of value hands and may continue on sone bluffs.

Don't know the poster of the hand but think he might have got defensive as his question  got treated by some as it was trivial and he got told rather dismissively to move down stakes.  Obv the whole hand is a bit of a brag but as a self confessed bragger I guess it doesnt bother me too much.

Interesting....

IDK if you're saying it's interesting because Keith has made a good, balanced post or because he has disagreed with a some other people, if it's the latter then I don't think it's especially interesting at all that Keith and other players have a different opinion. I think Keith is a fantastic player and i'd expect him to have opinions that differ from other players of all abilities.

lolwutwasthat was very douchey in his move down stakes comment but the OP was equally as ridiculous in posting the answer to to the thread as, i've been beating the game im right your all wrong and whats more i find it funny how stupid you all are.

for some reason this whole thread has tilted me into actually logging off blonde.

[Dubai]

Strip Club owners in Leeds rejoice