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Woodsey
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Re: Queens
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January 23, 2012, 12:22:23 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2012, 12:06:27 PM
Yes. Jamming was the best option, followed by folding.
Calling was the worst move, but that's what I did. Then I folded when they both jammed.
UTG had 10s, seat 6 had
. Queens would have stood up.
Gotta be honest those little reraises confuse the hell out of me, I'm not usually folding queens that short anyway so I'd just stick it in. Sometimes you get it right, other times not, meh.......
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BulldozerD
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Re: Queens
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January 23, 2012, 01:01:43 PM »
With villain as described I would always jam
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January 23, 2012, 01:11:24 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2012, 12:06:27 PM
Yes. Jamming was the best option, followed by folding.
Calling was the worst move, but that's what I did. Then I folded when they both jammed.
UTG had 10s, seat 6 had
. Queens would have stood up.
As the consensus seems to be jam or fold do you think it would have been different if you had been say 8 tabling a load of multi's like some of the guys do?
Is the mindset in that situation that you are more likely to jam or gamble a little more with the hope that you are going to get it right and run up a stack on some tables and accept that you will bust on others?
If the opposite is the case and this is the one tournament you are going to play that day do you think it makes it harder to jam in that spot, if it is a flip between jamming or folding?
That might be a bit of a ramble but I have actually got the builders in so its a bit of a rush.
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January 23, 2012, 02:56:34 PM »
Think Pleno summed it up best. With your stack size I'm very rarely folding Queens or Jacks in this spot unless I have a solid read that the min raise is aces (ie notes on opponent)
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January 23, 2012, 03:21:48 PM »
My thinking.
I didn't like the early position opening bet.
I was worried about the min raise from the LAG.
This is my most expensive buy in of the week. It's great value, lots of the players have got in on a satellite and therefore it's plays quite soft, especially in the earlier stages. I thought if I pushed in that spot I would get at least one caller and there was a good chance that I would either be crushed or racing.
There is loads of play in this comp, and I like to see flops with these players. I don't want to give my what I see as my edge away cheaply.
That being said, you guys were right, calling was the worst option. I should have pushed or folded.
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Re: Queens
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January 23, 2012, 03:46:43 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
My thinking.
I didn't like the early position opening bet.
I was worried about the min raise from the LAG.
This is my most expensive buy in of the week. It's great value, lots of the players have got in on a satellite and therefore it's plays quite soft, especially in the earlier stages. I thought if I pushed in that spot I would get at least one caller and there was a good chance that I would either be crushed or racing.
There is loads of play in this comp, and I like to see flops with these players. I don't want to give my what I see as my edge away cheaply.
That being said, you guys were right, calling was the worst option. I should have pushed or folded.
Did you cash Tom?
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Re: Queens
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January 23, 2012, 04:33:31 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on January 23, 2012, 03:46:43 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
My thinking.
I didn't like the early position opening bet.
I was worried about the min raise from the LAG.
This is my most expensive buy in of the week. It's great value, lots of the players have got in on a satellite and therefore it's plays quite soft, especially in the earlier stages. I thought if I pushed in that spot I would get at least one caller and there was a good chance that I would either be crushed or racing.
There is loads of play in this comp, and I like to see flops with these players. I don't want to give my what I see as my edge away cheaply.
That being said, you guys were right, calling was the worst option. I should have pushed or folded.
Did you cash Tom?
No I didn't Phil.
I got it in good when I turned the nut flush v a set of 4s but the board paired on the end.
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Re: Queens
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January 23, 2012, 05:59:55 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2012, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on January 23, 2012, 03:46:43 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
My thinking.
I didn't like the early position opening bet.
I was worried about the min raise from the LAG.
This is my most expensive buy in of the week. It's great value, lots of the players have got in on a satellite and therefore it's plays quite soft, especially in the earlier stages. I thought if I pushed in that spot I would get at least one caller and there was a good chance that I would either be crushed or racing.
There is loads of play in this comp, and I like to see flops with these players. I don't want to give my what I see as my edge away cheaply.
That being said, you guys were right, calling was the worst option. I should have pushed or folded.
Did you cash Tom?
No I didn't Phil.
I got it in good when I turned the nut flush v a set of
but the board paired on the end.
Bugger, I was hoping for a cash. Is that a comp on Laddies?
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Re: Queens
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January 23, 2012, 06:04:32 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
My thinking.
I didn't like the early position opening bet.
I was worried about the min raise from the LAG.
This is my most expensive buy in of the week. It's great value, lots of the players have got in on a satellite and therefore it's plays quite soft, especially in the earlier stages. I thought if I pushed in that spot I would get at least one caller and there was a good chance that I would either be crushed or racing.
There is loads of play in this comp, and I like to see flops with these players. I don't want to give my what I see as my edge away cheaply.
That being said, you guys were right, calling was the worst option. I should have pushed or folded.
so you're set mining? If this is your thinking then the conservative option is to fold and it wouldn't be terrible.
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January 23, 2012, 07:15:18 PM »
It happened again. This time, I took your advice.
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January 23, 2012, 07:28:35 PM »
Outrageous binkage.
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January 23, 2012, 07:31:47 PM »
Quote from: tikay on January 23, 2012, 07:28:35 PM
Outrageous binkage.
These guys know what they're talking about though.
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January 23, 2012, 07:34:21 PM »
hee hee, nice.
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January 23, 2012, 08:58:18 PM »
I like queens...
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January 23, 2012, 09:13:30 PM »
cmon Tom, GIQ some of us doing the farm over here.
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