Bet365 jokeaments

[Horneris]

Its not that absurd really is it? I'll put 100 a day in your bank account and you give me 120 a day in my account. You are sharp men with something about you, surely you understand the reverse would be more absurd?

I'm very surprised you are taking this viewpoint tbh. When I worked at skybet I was disgusted when they failed to give customers a chance when they had a proven winning record of at least a few months, never mind having only placed 2 bets which didn't even win!!!

So many people donate huge amounts on the casino, so many "priority customers" donate huge amount at sports betting (I've seen this first hand), why won't they give someone a chance to place a few bets before they judge them as a customer?

I don't know what I would say to him if I worked in the Bet365 call centre and he rang up and I could only offer him £2EW on a 10/1 shot when he opened the account yesterday, which is what may well happen. How embarrassing for the operator, the customer and the company as a business.

Sorry to rant at you Ace coz I know your a decent guy but the experiences me and all my shadows have undertaken with 365 over the last few years have been shocking. So cowardly.

[ACE2M]

Just being devils advocate really.

[redarmi]

Tend to agree with Brent.  It is one thing closing or restricting a punter after 100 bets where they have shown a winning record but another thing restricting a punter after two £30 bets.  Afaik Matt isn't a big winning punter is he and they certainly don't have anything like enough of a record with me to be able to ascertain that.  I can presently bet exactly zero online on them on the New York Giants +3 4/5.  They could currently have at least £250k on the Giants elsewhere +3 @ 5/6 or bigger so why will they lay me nothing at all?  How is that anything other than cowardly?

[AndrewT]

How is that anything other than cowardly?

It's all about the bottom line for bookies nowadays. If you can only take bets from mugs, and turn away anyone who would have a lifetime win of even £1 then it's better for the company.

The computerised databases and player tracking means that they can more accurately identify who is a winner and which new accounts are likely to be winners and they want those guys to go somewhere else.

[bookiebasher]

They are the worst company I have ever dealt with. Closed my account 2 years ago .

Customer service a waste of time . Spout out the same crap time and again.

Would just say if you are not happy then ring and close account . Plenty of others

willing to take your money.

[redarmi]

I understand that but I don't see how in that example taking the bet is a negative proposition for them.   Worst case scenario is take £100 @ 4/5 and bet that £100 @ 1.83 with their neighbouring company and win £3.33 if the bet wins and nothing if it loses.  Assuming that is roughly a 52% chance they have an expectation of £1.73 for a minutes work.  It is a question of degrees really.  I am not capitalised £1bn or whatever 365 are but I will happily take £1k at their prices on the Superbowl for the main markets from anyone on Blonde.  

[MahoganyVic]

You will be able to get bigger stakes on in the last 5 mins before the off on the bigger races (normally £100/£200 win limits for big saturday races/ cheltenham etc)

[Raman]

I am not a winninng punter on 365 but they are a firm I find it very hard to get any sort of decent bet on with.

I opened up an account 2 years ago to take advantage of one of their bonuses, it turned out I got on a few horses at fancy prices that as the day went on had dramatically decreased in price both with the bookies and on the exchanges.  We never did a win but the horses ran well and the money looked well placed a few days later I tried getting a bet on when they were best priced on an event and I was able to get £2.77 on.  I lolled and closed the account without clearing the bonus and vowed never to use them again. 

[kinboshi]

How is that anything other than cowardly?

It's all about the bottom line for bookies nowadays. If you can only take bets from mugs, and turn away anyone who would have a lifetime win of even £1 then it's better for the company.

The computerised databases and player tracking means that they can more accurately identify who is a winner and which new accounts are likely to be winners and they want those guys to go somewhere else.

So you're saying it was just a massive mis-read by Bet365 in this case?

[Sheriff Fatman]

Is it possible that it's to do with those people identified as bonus chasers (i.e. they offer a £200 match bonus and flag the accounts that deposit exactly £200, which to be fair you'd expect most of them to do)?

If so, it's not disimilar to the online casinos a few years back when they had +EV deposit bonuses and playthroughs (sometimes with autoplay too).

Otherwise, it does seem ridiculous.

[EvilPie]

Is it possible that it's to do with those people identified as bonus chasers (i.e. they offer a £200 match bonus and flag the accounts that deposit exactly £200, which to be fair you'd expect most of them to do)?

If so, it's not disimilar to the online casinos a few years back when they had +EV deposit bonuses and playthroughs (sometimes with autoplay too).

Otherwise, it does seem ridiculous.

I can't really see that being the case. Why would they offer the bonus if they didn't want people coming for it?

The thing that really gets me is the way they allowed a couple of £40 bets on day 1.

If they'd restricted me on day I could fully understand but they let me lose £80 then restricted me.

[EvilPie]

I've just tried to get on another bet and was restricted to £3 again.

I've tried several other sports and it looks like they don't want to risk any more than about a tenner of their money against me.

The account has £310 in it of which £200 is bonus money.

I need to bet another £20 or so to release the £200 bonus. Once that's released I'll withdraw what's there but I still have £200 to play with.

I can't withdraw that £200 until I've played through it 3 times so that's £600 worth of bets at £3 a pop.

Anybody got any ideas what I can bet on?

The sillier the better as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to use the account for anything serious ever again so maybe we could have some fun little punts and try to spite release the bonus?

If we manage to play through the bonus and there's some money that can be withdrawn at the end of it I'll donate whatever's there to the update fund.

Anybody interested?

[Eso Kral]

I've just tried to get on another bet and was restricted to £3 again.

I've tried several other sports and it looks like they don't want to risk any more than about a tenner of their money against me.

The account has £310 in it of which £200 is bonus money.

I need to bet another £20 or so to release the £200 bonus. Once that's released I'll withdraw what's there but I still have £200 to play with.

I can't withdraw that £200 until I've played through it 3 times so that's £600 worth of bets at £3 a pop.

Anybody got any ideas what I can bet on?

The sillier the better as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to use the account for anything serious ever again so maybe we could have some fun little punts and try to spite release the bonus?

If we manage to play through the bonus and there's some money that can be withdrawn at the end of it I'll donate whatever's there to the update fund.

Anybody interested?

Do a 10pence eachway luck 15 each day with 3 non runners and and an odds on shot!!

[mondatoo]

I've just tried to get on another bet and was restricted to £3 again.

I've tried several other sports and it looks like they don't want to risk any more than about a tenner of their money against me.

The account has £310 in it of which £200 is bonus money.

I need to bet another £20 or so to release the £200 bonus. Once that's released I'll withdraw what's there but I still have £200 to play with.

I can't withdraw that £200 until I've played through it 3 times so that's £600 worth of bets at £3 a pop.

Anybody got any ideas what I can bet on?

The sillier the better as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to use the account for anything serious ever again so maybe we could have some fun little punts and try to spite release the bonus?

If we manage to play through the bonus and there's some money that can be withdrawn at the end of it I'll donate whatever's there to the update fund.

Anybody interested?

Get onto the Bopkin for his 10 fold Volleyball/Badmington/Tiddlywinks tips and stick it up them.

[EvilPie]

New plan.

It appears that at least for now I'm allowed to win reasonable amounts on football bets.

Someone's recommended via PM that I just have a few big bets just to release the bonus.

I like the sound of this as all I want to do now is spite get that free £200

So I'm looking for 3 reasonable odds on footy bets where I can get the full £200 on.

Obviously they all have to be at different times.

Is Manchester City to beat Fulham at 3/10 decent?

I'm not looking for value particularly just something that will probably happen.