DTD's new policy on deals

[TightEnd]

Released last night, as follows

"as from March 1st 2012, tournaments where the prize pool is guaranteed by Dusk Till Dawn will subject to a “no deals policy”.

"“When Dusk Till Dawn first opened, we had a “no deals policy” for all of our tournaments, however, over time, this lapsed. We have created many big prizepools for our players, mainly through taking risks with guaranteeing the prize pool ourselves, but the most important and exciting part of the tournament - the final table, has sometimes been an anti-climax to the event, with disruptions in play while deals are trying to be negotiated, not only between the players at the final table, but with players who have taken stakes in a particular player, a trend which we have seen growing. On occasions, we have seen lesser experienced players, in particular, those players that have qualified through our satellites, not always receiving fair equity and situations have arisen where deal negotiations have created some animosity, especially when one player has refused to agree to a deal that the majority of players want to do. These are the primary reasons, however, we are also keen supporters of poker being recognised as a “sport”, and part of promoting and supporting this concept is that there is an outright winner of a poker tournament. Of course, there can be a significant element of luck in winning a poker tournament, but we believe that the ability to negotiate deals should have no influence on how the prize pool is distributed. We believe this is in the best interests of poker players who choose to play tournaments at Dusk Till Dawn.”"

http://www.dusktilldawnpokerclub.com/news.php?id=2217


thoughts?

[cambridgealex]

Pleasing news for you I'm sure, Tighty...

[kinboshi]

So, having read that a few times now, does it mean they're enforcing a 'no deals policy' from now on in all comps?

[gatso]

So, having read that a few times now, does it mean they're enforcing a 'no deals policy' from now on?

yes, for some reason the statement misses out this bit

as from March 1st 2012, tournaments where the prize pool is guaranteed by Dusk Till Dawn will subject to a “no deals policy”

[FUN4FRASER]

It says "we had a no deals policy" and now" there has to be a winner."..but doesnt say "there can be no deals"

Am I missing something ?

[TightEnd]

It says "we had a no deals policy" and now" there has to be a winner."..but doesnt say "there can be no deals"

Am I missing something ?

it does say that, I've added it to the post above

as from March 1st 2012, tournaments where the prize pool is guaranteed by Dusk Till Dawn will subject to a “no deals policy”.

[AndrewT]

Released last night, as follows

'That Prew fellow is leaving DTD far too early on Sunday nights - we're putting a stop to this by banning deals.'

thoughts?

FYP

[FUN4FRASER]

Ahhh...I see now cheers .

I think a no deal policy is never a bad thing  and can stop soft  play however it is likely verbal deals will still happen amongst familiar players .

Still... a good initiative by DTD in my opinion .

[rfgqqabc]

Pros:
-Higher profile victory's
-Looks better for poker to have winners.
-No people taking advantage of others in a deal situation
- No bad blood.

Cons:
- Flippies for lots of money. Flippies for peoples monthly salary, always fun.
- No way to lower variance, Deepstack final table appearances are rare and people can lower variance through deals (excludes Nick Hicks obv)
- Underhand deals may take place
- Longer work for dealers = higher costs (daily £50 f/os could take a few hours longer due to new policy)
- Higher costs = more rake, longer hours = more staff needed
- Players may either: not turn up. or turn up expecting deals to be allowed, because they are everywhere...

[bobAlike]

Speaking as a recreational player, on the rare occasion I final table, I hate the atmosphere created when players are desperate to deal. Really does tilt me.

I for one applaud this decision and hope I get to experience it first hand. (not likely on current form)

[cambridgealex]

I imagine this is entirely because of the live stream. People wanna see a final played out and they wanna see a winner.

Don't see why they can't allow cash deals but say x% of the prizepool must be left over for the winner.

[RED-DOG]

I never do deals anyway.


[   open goal    ]

[smashedagain]

I wish more people in life made their mind up as quick as Rob does.

Rob "right let's make the next deepstack £250k".
Simon " I'll have a look at the numbers and what we clash with to avoid a massive overlay"
Rob " sod it I've said it now so next month is £250k gtd we are all agreed then"

I know he was not too impressed on the live stream last night and asked for opinions.

I never do deals unless it benefits me more.

Edit: I also try to avoid refusing deals to not look greedy and karma usually bites the guy not wanting to deal right in the arse

[mondatoo]

How would someone not wanting to deal have anything to do with Karma, what have they done wrong ?

[AndrewT]

Just flatten the payout structure - dilutes the desire to deal.