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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2012, 05:32:05 PM »

but what about when we win the high variance plusssss ev spot, morale is high and we go to marbella with the boys and rub fiddys on our tiddys. feels alot better than having to grind feels bad.
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2012, 05:48:32 PM »

Why is losing a marginal one so detrimental to your session?

I know nothing about Peejay btw so this isn't him as an example but I'm assuming this is pretty relevant to most of the DTD games.

Apparently these doncaster lot come into town rarely but when they do it's mental stuff and the variance is high. so 1/2 effectively becomes 2/5 or 3/6 but it's a great spot to play ofc. However they're around for 4 hours or so, so can expect about 100 hands. If you take 3 marginal spots you're basically flipping (albeit with a small edge no doubt), at higher than average stakes for 600big blinds. You could lose all 3, easily could happen (you could also win all three)

Spose you lose all three, lose 600big blinds, you now have to return to the regular games, where winning 600big blinds takes a good bit of time unless the games get really good (no way to expect that though) Very tilting, bad for morale and a small hit to the bankroll.

Spose you win all three. Great, 600big blinds, how happy are you, worth risking ^^^ for? If you're playing way into your average stakes then yh prolly, but games bigger and better than this don't run hardly ever at DTD amirite?

It's just a different part of game selecting imo, I've sat out of sick 10/20 games online this month because they just don't run often enough when they are good and all I need to do is run bad and i'll undo 2 weeks grinding at 1/2 - 3/6 just really bad for morale + If I had a sicck session and won $10k and be far less happy than how tilted I'd be if I lost $10k and ruined my HEM graph.

That's why I'd be looking not to take marginal spots on in this specific spot. Like I've said, if this game with this much action ran all the time I'd merrily gamble it up, because it's a)non eploitable and b) good for your image but in what is basically a one off I'll just wait till I have a top pair.



That is interesting. I always feel like a pussy for thinking things like that (like the bolded bit)

E.g. I left the 2/5 early on saturday cos it was getting too big, the donny lads had gone home, and although it was still a good game I was sat with 5k and was covered in a couple of spots - if I'd been stacked it would've been disastrous for morale, and the fear of that, would've made me play bad - so I booked the win.

But I always get ripped for that sort of mentality Sad

I think it's very sensible. If the games ran like that all the time it would be different. If you're playing in games that are playing a lot bigger than they usually do and you're going to get into super close spots (you aren't going to be able to play this game again very soon - or at least you prolly won't) then you're basically taking a 55/45 for you're months NET results and your immediate morale. Pretty sure that is just gambling. If you're extremely comfortable taking the gamble (whilst acknowledging that it is a gamble) then staying and playing seems abso fine, cos after all it is profitable.

with me and my game selecting this month I've just decided that winning is not worth the risk of losing - if there were games that I could play running everyday Id happily punt around. I'd rather not play and book a decent month than risk the entire month's performance on a 3 hour session on random wednesday.

Not saying I always follow this train of thought lol (I rarely do) just saying that when I have I've always thought afterwards that it's a very good one.
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2012, 05:53:36 PM »

but what about when we win the high variance plusssss ev spot, morale is high and we go to marbella with the boys and rub fiddys on our tiddys. feels alot better than having to grind feels bad.

if that is the case then defo be snapping up the variance!

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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2012, 07:32:55 PM »

Any chance the Donny lads read this?
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2012, 07:54:02 PM »

Any chance the Donny lads read this?

nah they're more 2+2 sorta lads Wink
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2012, 09:38:04 PM »

Why is losing a marginal one so detrimental to your session?

Utility.


Oh. Yeah I agree actually.


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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2012, 10:11:26 PM »


sort of...
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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2012, 10:14:52 PM »

Any chance the Donny lads read this?

nah they're more 2+2 sorta lads Wink

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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2012, 10:34:26 PM »


EXACTLY, I actually said that about 3 times in different phrases during this thread but no1 seemed to understand.

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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2012, 10:50:44 PM »

you just explained it really badly the first few times and it sounded really fishy
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2012, 01:17:04 AM »

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That is interesting. I always feel like a pussy for thinking things like that (like the bolded bit)

E.g. I left the 2/5 early on saturday cos it was getting too big, the donny lads had gone home, and although it was still a good game I was sat with 5k and was covered in a couple of spots - if I'd been stacked it would've been disastrous for morale, and the fear of that, would've made me play bad - so I booked the win.

But I always get ripped for that sort of mentality Sad

Having that mentality is fine as long as you are aware that you're leaving money on the table by doing so
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2012, 11:57:21 AM »

sometime not losing is better than winning

marginal EV spots are still short-term gambling and sometimes it's just not worth the risk in live poker where everything is the short term
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