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« on: February 23, 2012, 08:49:12 PM »

Interesting little presentation



Some of what he says contradicts commonly accepted advice on e.g. meat; protein in balanced diet.

He does seem to present a lot of research/ cross-cultural studies to back up what he says.

Any thoughts on this? I'm thinking of going veggie now.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 08:53:27 PM »

tl dw;

cliffs?

Only comment on the still I see as is - clearly biased: carnivores have incisors, herbivores have molars - we have incisors and molars - so clearly = omnivore

(assuming he's presenting it that we have molars therefore we 'should' be vegetarian)
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 09:05:53 PM »

tl dw;

cliffs?

Only comment on the still I see as is - clearly biased: carnivores have incisors, herbivores have molars - we have incisors and molars - so clearly = omnivore

(assuming he's presenting it that we have molars therefore we 'should' be vegetarian)

Cliffs: we shouldn't eat animals/things that are squeezed from/drop out of animals. Go veggie.
Evolutionary fact: we are designed as neither omnivores nor carnivores. We did occupy a hunter-gatherer niche but this was just a small part of our history, our bodies are still basically set up for a meat-free, plant based diet.
We have incisors, but they are poorly suited to meat-eating compared to any other meat-eating animal. We have a jaw that grinds in the same way that a cow's does and in the way that eg a cat's cannot. Our body is not designed to cope with the amount of protein present in the typical 'balanced diet'. In fact, we need only a few grams of protein/day, most people eat 5 x the protein requirement.
But w/e to the evolution stuff, the meat and dairy products that we consume are responsible for heart-disease and cancers, should be avoided. Places in the world that consume less dairy have less osteoporosis. Places that consume more veg/less meat have much much smaller incidence of digestive cancers/heart-disease.
Therefore>veggie.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 09:49:55 PM »

If God didn't want us to eat animals he shouldn't have made them out of meat.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 09:57:37 PM »

If God didn't want us to eat animals he shouldn't have made them taste so nice.

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 10:00:03 PM »

If God didn't want us to eat animals he shouldn't have made them taste so nice.

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I can live with that
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 10:02:18 PM »

If God wanted us to eat quorn he shouldn't have made it out of cardboard.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 10:07:12 PM »

If God wanted us to eat quorn he shouldn't have made it out of cardboard.

...and that
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 10:23:39 PM »

If Vegies want us to be vegies, they shouldn't have made internet documentries 58 minutes long.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 10:30:27 PM »

If god had wanted us to spend 58 minutes listening to documentaries, he would have invented ipods so we could digest them on our evening run back from Holland & Barrett :p
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 10:41:12 PM »

I remember being taught that the appendix was used to digest raw meat from back in the day? That's why we don't need it anymore as we cook most meat now. Surely that goes against veggienous
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 10:52:22 PM »

tl dw;

cliffs?

Only comment on the still I see as is - clearly biased: carnivores have incisors, herbivores have molars - we have incisors and molars - so clearly = omnivore

(assuming he's presenting it that we have molars therefore we 'should' be vegetarian)

Cliffs: we shouldn't eat animals/things that are squeezed from/drop out of animals. Go veggie.
Evolutionary fact: we are designed as neither omnivores nor carnivores. We did occupy a hunter-gatherer niche but this was just a small part of our history, our bodies are still basically set up for a meat-free, plant based diet.
We have incisors, but they are poorly suited to meat-eating compared to any other meat-eating animal. We have a jaw that grinds in the same way that a cow's does and in the way that eg a cat's cannot. Our body is not designed to cope with the amount of protein present in the typical 'balanced diet'. In fact, we need only a few grams of protein/day, most people eat 5 x the protein requirement.
But w/e to the evolution stuff, the meat and dairy products that we consume are responsible for heart-disease and cancers, should be avoided. Places in the world that consume less dairy have less osteoporosis. Places that consume more veg/less meat have much much smaller incidence of digestive cancers/heart-disease.
Therefore>veggie.


but things like milk contain calcium and we need plenty of this for strong bones. Thus if u have too little calcium surely you're more likely to get illneses such as osteoporosis?
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 10:54:17 PM »

I remember being taught that the appendix was used to digest raw meat from back in the day? That's why we don't need it anymore as we cook most meat now. Surely that goes against veggienous

this would suggest the exact opposite

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/body/factfiles/appendix/appendix.shtml

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Evidence suggests that our evolutionary ancestors used their appendixes to digest tough food like tree bark

but think it's pretty much all guesswork and noone knows what it's for
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 11:05:46 PM »

I remember being taught that the appendix was used to digest raw meat from back in the day? That's why we don't need it anymore as we cook most meat now. Surely that goes against veggienous

Would appear to be an evolutionary throwback indeed, here they suggest it was part of the system for digesting plant cellulose http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/vestiges/appendix.html
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 11:13:45 PM »

point blank refuse to watch anything that tells me I shouldn't eat burgers
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