Folding a set on the flop

[Kilgore_Trout]

50p/£1 table at DTD. I've only been playing 20 mins or so and my stack is up from £100 to about £130 after winning a few smallish pots. No reads on anyone at the table.

Villain in early position has a big stack of chips and makes it £4. Couple of calls and I call from the BB with pocket fours.

Flop comes K 10 4 rainbow.

I check, villain bets £8, its folded round to me and a I check raise it up to £22.

Villain quickly grabs chips and re-raises to £65.

I felt fairly sure he had a set of kings as he looks uber confident but maybe he could have had top two pair here or maybe QJ?? I've read in harington on hold em that anyone who folds bottom or middle set on the flop putting their opponent on top set is an idiot.

So anyway, i tank for a bit then jam the lot in. Villain quickly calls and shows a set of kings.

Is this just bad luck or should I have folded to the re-raise?

[cambridgealex]

harrington is a wise man.

[PeeJay]

You have a set 100 bbs deep on a fishy live 50/1 game. Don't fold sets in live games. They don't come around that often and when they do you should usually be pretty happy to get stacks in. Don't be afraid of the next best hand all the time, you just got unlucky on this occasion.

[muckthenuts]

harrington is a wise man.

lol

[SuuPRlim]

folding bottom set because you put your oppo on top set does not make you an idiot, one of the most powerful tool we have as poker players is our instincts, these come from our a combination of our experiences, our technical understanding and our natural ability for the game. I'm a great believer in following instincts providing you can back them up with some technical reasoning, as in, you're not using your "instincts" to excuse overly nitty or aggressive plays that just cannot be correct whichever way we look at them. I mean when decisions are kind of close you could use your instincts to sway decisions one way or the other and often or not you'll prolly be right.

However in this spot specifically you just cannot ignore the maths of the situation because they are too greatly in the favor of going all in, he has AK, KT, AA all way way more than he has KK orTT and he'd play exactly the same with them all, combine this with the fact that your stack size is not that deep and you have already commited over 1/3 of it, you really have no option but to go all in here, folding, whichever way we look at it would be a very bad play.

The fact you had a correct gut feeling for where you were in the hand just means that another time in a much much more complex spot there is a good chance your decisions will be good, this isn't a complicated spot though, you just got a horrible cooler.

[kinboshi]

folding bottom set because you put your oppo on top set does not make you an idiot, one of the most powerful tool we have as poker players is our instincts, these come from our a combination of our experiences, our technical understanding and our natural ability for the game. I'm a great believer in following instincts providing you can back them up with some technical reasoning, as in, you're not using your "instincts" to excuse overly nitty or aggressive plays that just cannot be correct whichever way we look at them. I mean when decisions are kind of close you could use your instincts to sway decisions one way or the other and often or not you'll prolly be right.

However in this spot specifically you just cannot ignore the maths of the situation because they are too greatly in the favor of going all in, he has AK, KT, AA all way way more than he has KK orTT and he'd play exactly the same with them all, combine this with the fact that your stack size is not that deep and you have already commited over 1/3 of it, you really have no option but to go all in here, folding, whichever way we look at it would be a very bad play.

The fact you had a correct gut feeling for where you were in the hand just means that another time in a much much more complex spot there is a good chance your decisions will be good, this isn't a complicated spot though, you just got a horrible cooler.

Dave is da man.

[maccol]

folding bottom set because you put your oppo on top set does not make you an idiot, one of the most powerful tool we have as poker players is our instincts, these come from our a combination of our experiences, our technical understanding and our natural ability for the game. I'm a great believer in following instincts providing you can back them up with some technical reasoning, as in, you're not using your "instincts" to excuse overly nitty or aggressive plays that just cannot be correct whichever way we look at them. I mean when decisions are kind of close you could use your instincts to sway decisions one way or the other and often or not you'll prolly be right.

However in this spot specifically you just cannot ignore the maths of the situation because they are too greatly in the favor of going all in, he has AK, KT, AA all way way more than he has KK orTT and he'd play exactly the same with them all, combine this with the fact that your stack size is not that deep and you have already commited over 1/3 of it, you really have no option but to go all in here, folding, whichever way we look at it would be a very bad play.

The fact you had a correct gut feeling for where you were in the hand just means that another time in a much much more complex spot there is a good chance your decisions will be good, this isn't a complicated spot though, you just got a horrible cooler.

Dave is da man.

Absolutely.So much better than "50p please"

[Nit Tendencies]

Dave's reply is pretty much perfect.

[tikay]

Dave's reply is pretty much perfect.

Yup, maccol gets a bonus point, too.

[Junior Senior]

Lock thread, its been dealt with

[ChipRich]

what Dave said.

fk folding sets on the flop whatever your read, tough enough to make as it is.