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[PutYouOnAK/AQ]

Fist Pump Call It OFF!!

Like to call flop rather than raise but snapping if i raise and he shoves.  Unless he's a solid 50-1 player expect to be ahead nearly all of the time, 2pairs or sets tend to set the tarp and check.  Would imagine you will see worse Kings loads here along with a bunch of flush draws.

[Mondeoman]

Like the raise size on the flop - no need to be any bigger. When he shoves I'd simultaneously call, flip my hand and say something like "gotcha/ul mate/no diamond"

[muckthenuts]

and don't raise the flop without a plan for how we respond to his re-raise, when you make a raise only things can happen, 1)he folds, which we don't need to plan for we just need to stack dem chips, 2) he calls, which again we don't need to massive a plan for because we get to see another card and his next move before make our next action and 3) he raises, which really is the only scenario we need to plan for, so always try to plan how you will respond to a re-raise and factor that into your reasons for raising in the purpose, making a raise because you have TPTK and then being bewildered when he 3bets is not where we wanna be.

All of this is the main thing to take from the thread

[Derbylad]

Quote from: SuuPRlim on February 29, 2012, 08:46:37 PM


and don't raise the flop without a plan for how we respond to his re-raise, when you make a raise only things can happen, 1)he folds, which we don't need to plan for we just need to stack dem chips, 2) he calls, which again we don't need to massive a plan for because we get to see another card and his next move before make our next action and 3) he raises, which really is the only scenario we need to plan for, so always try to plan how you will respond to a re-raise and factor that into your reasons for raising in the purpose, making a raise because you have TPTK and then being bewildered when he 3bets is not where we wanna be.

All of this is the main thing to take from the thread

+1

[tight4better]

Didn't we speak about bet sizing in another thread?

Bigger raise size, and if you plan on raising this flop be prepared to call a 3-bet shove considering his stack size.

If you're worried by KQ/77, especially seeing as you have such a small sample size. Flat flop, eval turn. You've got position and if by chance a diamond spikes the turn you still have NFD and TPTK.

Honestly though, if villain takes this line and I've raised a donk bet on flop then I'm probably calling it off, look at KQ and hit runner runner diamond to scoop 

[Kilgore_Trout]

If we flat the flop, turn is a blank and villain leads out with a decent size bet presumably we plan to call?

So - wouldn't it be better to raise flop rather than giving a free card?

What if the turn is a scare card - do we plan to fold if villain leads out? (given we have the nut flush draw ace)