Calling the clock when not in the hand.

[outragous76]

I think I have been clear, but I'm talking about one off genuinely tough decisions. People not in the hand should not be calling the clock.

I have called for a clock once, and that was because the guy asked me to.

[scottbrown]

Yeah I was dealing that.....

I was trained by Mark and I was told that clock can't be called in cash. But yes I still called floor for the ruling.
As for the lad taking so long to call, it was a pretty active board and I can see why it was taking so long. The player who called clock had actually called clock several times in the £50 while I was dealing to him. Take that how you will.

[brookie]

it one thing i never done and iv been playing poker for over 10years

[WotRTheChances]

It all just boils down to common sense imo.

I have never personally called the clock on anyone, but I would be far more inclined to call the clock on someone in a tournament than in a cash game. I can't really imagine calling the clock on someone and not being in the hand, seems kinda douchey to me. If someone was tanking over a bowl decision in a cash game, I would be tempted.

For large money calls I would never call a clock on someone in any circumstances (esp if you don't know how much that call may mean to that individual).

[cambridgealex]

For large money calls I would never call a clock on someone in any circumstances (esp if you don't know how much that call may mean to that individual).

Then how do you define large money?

I've seen ppl take 5mins+ over £15 bets and snap call £1k with bottom pair.

[dik9]

Yeah I was dealing that.....

I was trained by Mark and I was told that clock can't be called in cash.

You sure he taught you that?

Clock can be called, however it is rare and bad form unless it is persistent tanking. A supervisor will usually note the clock after has been called then use their own discretion on when the countdown starts.

[scottbrown]

Yeah Rich. His words were pretty much, "In cash its the players money and the players time. They can pretty much do anything apart from the obvious, i.e string bet and what not"

He also taught us that DEALERS can call clock. It was pretty embarrasing when I did it. But a few on my old training course can back that up as I asked around.

[dik9]

Yeah Rich. His words were pretty much, "In cash its the players money and the players time. They can pretty much do anything apart from the obvious, i.e string bet and what not"

He also taught us that DEALERS can call clock. It was pretty embarrasing when I did it. But a few on my old training course can back that up as I asked around.

Get out of town, no way did he do this .... we spoke about it many times and we both face palmed when it was done. I am not calling you a liar btw but maybe you misheard :/

[shipitonetime]

LOOOOOOOOOOOL  at dealers calling the clock!!!

[WotRTheChances]

For large money calls I would never call a clock on someone in any circumstances (esp if you don't know how much that call may mean to that individual).

Then how do you define large money?

I've seen ppl take 5mins+ over £15 bets and snap call £1k with bottom pair.

Generally you can tell, if they pull up with 100bb and play like a nit and take ages over a 50bb shove or sometihng, clearly it matters to  them, but if its someone like you who is considerably richer than youw, obv it matters less. Any pots over say 400bb total is large enough to warrent some thought in a tough spot.

[smashedagain]

Calling the clock on someone is defo not the right thing to do in most situations. But as soon as someone takes 5 minutes you should be allowed to fart in their faces.

[SuuPRlim]

anyone sat at the table can call the clock on anyone at anytime, it is there right to do so.

in high stakes live games it's considered pretty form to clock anyone (I've prolly seen it done 3 or 4 time - once today as it happens!) in those games tho there is a lot less pointless stalling and people genuinely take the time they need most of the time, most people just wanna keep the game going.

in the lower stakes though people consistently take far far too long over every decision, regardless of the pot size (as smaller pots still sometimes have legitimately difficult decisions) idk if it's an attention thing or just cos they've seen hellmuth tank for 40minutes with AJo preflop for $200k on HSP or whatever but it's really fucking tilting.

I think it should just boil down to judgement over whether the player is deliberately taking too long or actually needs the time, I think calling a clock because you're short or you're stuck big in a cash game ins't in the spirit of the game. If someone if using the time properly fair enough, if he is wasting time then the clock should be called.

[edgascoigne]

Played a hand at the Vic before (1/3) that went roughly as follows... We are playing £675, villain covers.

Limp, limp, villain limps, I limp co ( ), btn raises to 15, all call.

Flop (75):  

Checks to raiser who bets 25.
Folds, folds, villain raises to 75.
I 3bet to 175.
OR folds.
Villain 4bets all in so c£475 to call.

Now....the game to this point has been impossibly tight. Chap (not in the hand) who has been playing so nitty its untrue, after about 90secs asks for a clock.

I mean really? What a c(l)ock. I told him as much after the hand as well.

(in before cool story bro, flop the nuts more often, play worse etc)

[madlondoner]

Once someone has taken five minutes and they are umming and arring when it is pretty clear they are never calling and have a hand they don't want to pass like aces but know they are gonna then ofc I can call clock. Why should this guy waste my time and bore me? We came to play poker; not watch him think when the decision is plainly obvious. I won't call the clock within reason if it is a genuine tough decision but when they do it every time I feel duty bound.

[rfgqqabc]

Two people regularly play the cash games at my local.

1) Thinks he is some Italian hotshot, and regularly tanks over decisions preflop etc.

2) Guy seems to not have all his mental functions- possibly just steaming drunk, it is the north east.

I have experienced a whole table been asking the dealer call the clock on player 1 and not say a thing even though its 5:25- the game ends in 5 mins and number 2 has taken 3 mins to act pre.

Players call the clock for  variety of reasons, and usually speeding the game up is number 2 on the list.