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« on: March 08, 2012, 11:44:16 PM »

OK I feel like I'm reaching a watershed moment in poker career so to speak. I know how good/bad I am and have a long way to go to consider myself alongside some of the sick Brits.

My game is kinda a hybrid of old and new school and I'm keen to do really well.

I'm putting in a ton more volume online with mixed results.

Seeing as I can't keep a real diary going I've decided to post some spots from online/live tourneys which I've caused me particular trouble. Some of these might be basic/ some tricky. I'm hoping we can all learn and this can be used by players of all levels. Also hoping some of the sicker mtters (you know who you are) will contribute.

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 11:47:00 PM »

OK first hand.

Deepish in big 55. 180 left so a long way off the deece money.

My image is pretty solid but have been opening a few hands.

Villian is very decent reg. I've just 4 bet jammed on him after I opened AK from hijack, c off peeled and villian made it 8.5k from blinds. I jammed for 35k and he folded.

What is the best line here and why?

PokerStars Hand #76872357329: Tournament #563010574, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (700/1400) - 2012/03/08 23:37:28 WET [2012/03/08 18:37:28 ET]
Table '563010574 98' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Vinni-jok (71626 in chips)
Seat 2: robot139 (30171 in chips)
Seat 3: VonStieglitz (7990 in chips)
Seat 4: Gags30 (42925 in chips)
Seat 5: mement_mori (6210 in chips)
Seat 6: RonaldKosh (22690 in chips)
Seat 7: adrinun (47033 in chips)
Seat 8: xXAlCapwnXx (69139 in chips)
Seat 9: George2Loose (52874 in chips)
Vinni-jok: posts the ante 175
robot139: posts the ante 175
VonStieglitz: posts the ante 175
Gags30: posts the ante 175
mement_mori: posts the ante 175
RonaldKosh: posts the ante 175
adrinun: posts the ante 175
xXAlCapwnXx: posts the ante 175
George2Loose: posts the ante 175
George2Loose: posts small blind 700
Vinni-jok: posts big blind 1400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
robot139: folds
VonStieglitz: folds
Gags30: raises 1400 to 2800
mement_mori: folds
RonaldKosh: folds
adrinun: folds
xXAlCapwnXx: folds
George2Loose:
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 12:45:11 AM »

Calling surely a very viable option, our hands plays good post-flop and he will almost certainly barrel at the boards we hit and he opens a lot of dominated hands (AT, JT, QJ, KJ, A9) etc

you're going to chk/fold the best hand a ton post-flop but then you OOP vs a very good player so it's not the end of world imo
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 12:50:48 AM »

Calling surely a very viable option, our hands plays good post-flop and he will almost certainly barrel at the boards we hit and he opens a lot of dominated hands (AT, JT, QJ, KJ, A9) etc

you're going to chk/fold the best hand a ton post-flop but then you OOP vs a very good player so it's not the end of world imo

I was talking to another high volume mtter who is deece (I'll let him come on and comment) who says he rarely, if ever, calls at this stage on an MTT.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 01:00:19 AM »

i mean, calling def caps your range, but 3b/call is pretty strong line here, him opening into the stacks doesnt mean he has a tight range, one bowl stack from a nit (mori) who isnt just gonna flick it in, and only one rejam stack ronald kosh.
3bet folding kinda sucks. I hate peeling from the blinds at this stage in an MTT. For me this would be an easy 3b/c as we have tons of history and he views me as a lot laggier than i am. For you i guess you dont have too much history, meh i might peel it and be willing to call down super light and obv look to get in draws on flop or turn and c/f a ton on the flop.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 01:24:41 AM »

I flat for the same reasons as lil Dave says.

Could never fold here and on occasion i put in a 3 bet but it would depend on my feel of the table.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 01:51:23 AM »

Fold pre
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 02:31:24 AM »

Nice idea Geo

i mean, calling def caps your range, but 3b/call is pretty strong line here, him opening into the stacks doesnt mean he has a tight range, one bowl stack from a nit (mori) who isnt just gonna flick it in, and only one rejam stack ronald kosh.
3bet folding kinda sucks. I hate peeling from the blinds at this stage in an MTT. For me this would be an easy 3b/c as we have tons of history and he views me as a lot laggier than i am. For you i guess you dont have too much history, meh i might peel it and be willing to call down super light and obv look to get in draws on flop or turn and c/f a ton on the flop.

What kind of range would you 3b/fold in this spot as Geo?  Also, for this type of villain, if someone like Geo 3b out of the blinds in this spot, how much of his opening range (and I guess what parts of his opening range) would he peel?
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 02:57:05 AM »

Fold pre

Cos we're OOP against a good reg? Or is this your std line against randoms too?
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 04:59:45 AM »

6.3k/call pre for me but fold is ok.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 07:07:23 AM »

I don't fold here at the stakes i play but i can see why you would to some extent. 3bet/call seems dirty too tho
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 07:08:09 AM »

Nice idea Geo

i mean, calling def caps your range, but 3b/call is pretty strong line here, him opening into the stacks doesnt mean he has a tight range, one bowl stack from a nit (mori) who isnt just gonna flick it in, and only one rejam stack ronald kosh.
3bet folding kinda sucks. I hate peeling from the blinds at this stage in an MTT. For me this would be an easy 3b/c as we have tons of history and he views me as a lot laggier than i am. For you i guess you dont have too much history, meh i might peel it and be willing to call down super light and obv look to get in draws on flop or turn and c/f a ton on the flop.

What kind of range would you 3b/fold in this spot as Geo?  Also, for this type of villain, if someone like Geo 3b out of the blinds in this spot, how much of his opening range (and I guess what parts of his opening range) would he peel?


i wouldnt have a value hand in my 3b/fold range, i don't think he's peeling a lot to our 3b at all. That said our 3b looks strong here so could see myself 3b/folding some Ax blockers and suited trash.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 08:07:06 AM »

6.3k/call pre for me but fold is ok.

Again is this due to your image or the best line to show profit?
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 08:08:31 AM »

I think judging by responses this is one of the many leaks in my game I need to plus esp. onlline

I considered all 4 options of fold/call/3bcall/3bfold

I called.

Flop was 

How do we proceed now?
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2012, 08:22:16 AM »

I think judging by responses this is one of the many leaks in my game I need to plus esp. onlline

I considered all 4 options of fold/call/3bcall/3bfold

I called.

Flop was 

How do we proceed now?

Check/fold or check/rr all in if you have a feel you could get him off, a check call I think is poor, open betting leaves yourself open to a bluff rr so that isn't recommended. I find it hard to advise without actually playing the spot tbh.
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