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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2012, 08:25:47 AM » |
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I fold pre
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2012, 08:46:06 AM » |
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this flop smacks your calling range so hard i might c/c one here with a view to c/j on any reasonable turn.
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2012, 10:36:24 AM » |
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a good reg isnt going to cbet this board that much vs a sb peel this deep
^^ why i don't like peeling pre here tbh
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 10:58:35 AM » |
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this flop smacks your calling range so hard i might c/c one here with a view to c/j on any reasonable turn.
Now in this spot I simply don't have that move in my locker. I always get put off by the fact he's comitted a lot of his stack by the time you c/r all in making fold equity tough. He may tilt call light, but as I said I wouldn't know as I don't do that play at all. I'm a little confused by what you think a reasonable turn is to jam, what's the worst turn card for you but still has you willing to c/r all in on the turn light? |
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 11:05:51 AM » |
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I always peel pre btw, 1400 more is decent pot odds and implied odds if you get a disguised flush or straight. I am very wary of A high boards knowing if there is betting I am probably behind so might do a call on the flop to a bet and give up to a second bullet. J high board I am more comfortable with but careful of the overpair. Don't see how this deep you could consider folding.
I think its all about peeling and then reassessing and being very careful from the flop onwards. Too much value to fold imo.
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 11:54:15 AM » |
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a good reg isnt going to cbet this board that much vs a sb peel this deep
^^ why i don't like peeling pre here tbh
def bramm vs a reg peel but is not gonna cbet all his air anyhow vs someone he may deem as a random |
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2012, 12:12:33 PM » |
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That was the plan.
He did c bet around half pot. I flatted looking to pile on any turn where I pick up equity.
However it bricked off with an off suit 3. I checked. He fired again.
I gave up and folded.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2012, 12:19:03 PM » |
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I have huge respect for bram and trigg's game but how 3b/getting 45 bigs in here as george and not you two is anythign but spew is beyond me.
surely you can peel pre and c/f this flop and you've barely been exploited at all?
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2012, 12:22:44 PM » |
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I have huge respect for bram and trigg's game but how 3b/getting 45 bigs in here as george and not you two is anythign but spew is beyond me.
surely you can peel pre and c/f this flop and you've barely been exploited at all?
i was saying that i would be happy to 3b/c vs gags30. People go ballis in online mtt's mate and we've been battling on the virtual felt for around 4 years, hes not looking down at any sort of blocker or value hand vs me and thinking fold. Id imagine he's the same with bramm. He's just not going ballis enough of the time vs someone he has no history with to justify 3b/calling for G2L |
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2012, 12:45:27 PM » |
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fold>call>3 bet/call
although that order can def change with more history
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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2012, 12:49:03 PM » |
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I have huge respect for bram and trigg's game but how 3b/getting 45 bigs in here as george and not you two is anythign but spew is beyond me.
surely you can peel pre and c/f this flop and you've barely been exploited at all?
Villain only has 30bbs. |
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2012, 12:59:29 PM » |
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George - hope you dont mind a mini derail
To those already commenting
How does 77 differ from AJs here?
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2012, 01:02:05 PM » |
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George - hope you dont mind a mini derail
To those already commenting
How does 77 differ from AJs here?
Go for it mate. Cert not a derail |
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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2012, 01:12:03 PM » |
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George - hope you dont mind a mini derail
To those already commenting
How does 77 differ from AJs here?
Good question. I often find myself just folding in these spots as i know all else i would do is 3b fold. Which probs means its a call. Looking forward to the responses. |
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2012, 02:20:39 PM » |
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As played, once you get to the flop what do people think of leading this flop? Considering how this flop kinda nails our flatting range and he probably checks back a decent amount but even still I don't think we get to win the pot that often by checking. Do you think its fine to have donk betting range here?
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