Basic MTT spots- A PHA diary

[the rage]

To me, although i dont hate checking behind for pot control, i'm not keen on giving my opponent a free card to out-draw me with, regardless of what he may be holding.
Surely hero would be c-betting most hands here usually, including AK.
 If he doesn't believe us villian may well just flat with a pair or a draw, giving hero more value. If hero checks behind, he can only improve with another queen, and even then there is an outside chance that he's allowed villian to get there with a gutshot.
 With villian's stack size, there is a decent chance that he may turn a pair or gutshot into a bluff by re-rasing hero's c-bet. Obviously if villain has a king or two, or pocket tens, then it's gg George, but i think it's a risk worth taking. He who dares wins.

[sm00035]

Hate checking back here, unless like someone mentioned you check back your whole (or large % of the time) with your 3bet range. You would cbet all bluffs/hands that didn't hit so do it with this as well. I don't think there are many bluffs he will just take off with on this flop, and although I'm pretty sure he's not a reg, checking back kind of turns your hand face-up and allows him to play his hand pretty perfectly.

[hatthehole]

check back. don't want to bet/fold or bet/call. don't think theres many worse hands he's peeling a cbet with but lots of worse hands (as well as better hands) he's check shoving. I don't think it matters that you've turned your hand face up as medium showdown, your in position with about 1.5x pot back v a random (i think?)

[outragous76]

check back. don't want to bet/fold or bet/call. don't think theres many worse hands he's peeling a cbet with but lots of worse hands (as well as better hands) he's check shoving. I don't think it matters that you've turned your hand face up as medium showdown, your in position with about 1.5x pot back v a random (i think?)

post mwoaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[outragous76]

Against some villains I am very happy about  jamming here to disguise the strength of our hand and get all underpairs to call - we are always going bust to AA KK anyway, so we might as well try and get a few underpairs into their range to get it in as well

[George2Loose]

Ok I checked back. the ac hits the turn. Villian checks

[outragous76]

Ok I checked back. the ac hits the turn. Villian checks

Lolz!

I bet/fold but im terrible in these spots hence the jam pre

[BulldozerD]

Ok I checked back. the ac hits the turn. Villian checks

Ah fuck, can't see much sense in betting again

[muckthenuts]

Hate checking back here, unless like someone mentioned you check back your whole (or large % of the time) with your 3bet range. You would cbet all bluffs/hands that didn't hit so do it with this as well. I don't think there are many bluffs he will just take off with on this flop, and although I'm pretty sure he's not a reg, checking back kind of turns your hand face-up and allows him to play his hand pretty perfectly.

Do agree but don't think it applies in this spot. Basically imo we're facing an unknown in a $20 tournament. The majority of people are weak players and aren't suddenly going to turn 99 into a bluff on the turn because we checked. If you start considering being 'balanced' in spots where you never needed to worry about balance at all it just ends up costing value.

Admittedly a very small portion of his range will c/r this flop but we still don't really want to leave ourselves open to it without a read. Mostly we still have the vast majority of his hands crushed and we gain value when we underrep/keep his bluffs in. There's no way we were going to bet 3 streets for value anyway so checking flop and bet/bet seems way more optimal vs the worse hands in his range.

[fizix87]

no need to be balanced vs a random in the 20c

so just check back flop, bet safe turns, eval river

on this specific turn check

think jamming pre loses way too much value with 28bb when people are going to peel 3 bets as wide as they are want to do

[the rage]

Now that you've given villian the free turn card it looks like you have to check behind again and give him another free card. It will be pretty comical if he gets there on the river.
 I'm liking my bet / call suggestion more and more as the hand progresses. Just hope he didn't flop anything.

[LonOhRay]

Villain is a winner at micro/low stakes and flats an utg+1 open then flats a 3 oop, should be strong, check back flop, bet 18k on "safe turns". Checking back this turn, call in a Q on river and get it in v AK

[hatthehole]

Ok I checked back. the ac hits the turn. Villian checks

check

[George2Loose]

I checked. Brick river. He bets 42k

[hatthehole]

I checked. Brick river. He bets 42k

pokerstove your hand vs (hands he calls pre and now bluffs with + hands he calls pre and now value bets).  really depends on what you know about the villain. In real time id probs fold.  youve 3bet pre and the board has a king and ace on, doubt hes gunna try bluff you much