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« on: March 13, 2012, 11:24:05 PM »

Can't decide yet if this is a good thing or a really terrible thing or maybe even a front for something quite devious



The charity Invisible Children upload it 1 week ago, since then it gets 75 million hits, and they raise over $5 million as a result. The video appears centred on an appeal to capture Joseph Kony and members of his army, who allegedly captured, brainwashed and recruited tens of thousands of child-soldiers in Uganda. They want him brought to justice.
Obama has sent in a hundred crack troops to help the Ugandans find Kony, no luck.
He has in fact probably fled Uganda, along with his troops who now only number about 300, and he has not really been active there for about 6 years.
Invisible Children now polarizing views all over the internets, some are supporting the campaign like crazy, some are criticizing them heavily, often mentioning
-the fact that Kony has gone already
-the fact that they only give 30 percent of their charity revenue to the actual causes in Uganda
-the governments they are working with in Africa aren't that clean themselves, some have child soldiers
-it's portrayed as white man swooping in to solve black man's problems, whereas in fact there are already many charities there, helping the locals to rebuild their own shattered lives.

At the extreme, there have been severe criticisms and suspicions:
-the actions of the charity may provoke new unrest/wars at a time when things were calming down, just because they wanted to make a big name for themselves
-coupled with the fact that Uganda has found itself in possession of >2 Billion barrels of oil, it's just America barging in and finding an excuse to 'help' a nation by means of military action, and reap the massive financial benefits of priority access to their natural resources.

The guardian has been reporting on it heavily, with lots of editorial and comment from those 'on the ground'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/mar/08/kony-2012-what-s-the-story

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/mar/13/reality-check-kony-2012-reaction

Can't decide if the charity is being naive and dangerous or just being realistic about their target audience and winning by promoting awareness of general wrong-doing all over Africa. Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 02:50:35 AM »

Simply, it's bad.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 09:17:02 AM »

They were on Piers Morgan show responding to the criticism its on you tube front page. Overall its good to get people aware of this and as long as they are full transparent in where the $ goes its fine.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 09:24:08 AM »

How have they generated the $5 million. Is it all from donations or are they paid everytime someone watches the video. Sorry if it's a noob question
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 12:03:28 PM »

Some good news (sort of related):  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17364988
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 12:04:04 PM »

... Overall its good to get people aware of this ....

Why?

What good does it do?

National governments, NATO, the  UN etc already know about it - and already have plans and opinions on it - it's completely irrelevant that a load of internet people also now know about it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 12:34:57 PM »

Fella from Ivory Coast next up, the President of Sudan is also wanted for trial - the nasty bastard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_al-Bashir   

Of course, nothing is done at the time as they don't seem to 'appeal' to the West as requiring intervention. 

The mainstream media coverage of the uprisings in the Middle East was fuelled by the social media coverage.  That has been sorely lacking with regards to the uprisings and events in central Africa.  Good article from last year here: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/02/201122164254698620.html
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 12:52:10 PM »

Interesting read about Uganda and Kony here:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/03/201231284336601364.html
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 12:53:47 PM »

Simply, it's bad.

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How have they generated the $5 million. Is it all from donations or are they paid everytime someone watches the video. Sorry if it's a noob question

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 01:14:23 PM »

... Overall its good to get people aware of this ....

Why?

What good does it do?

National governments, NATO, the  UN etc already know about it - and already have plans and opinions on it - it's completely irrelevant that a load of internet people also now know about it.


I never think its a bad thing to raise awareness of people suffering around the world. Your average Joe Bloggs has zero knowledge about this until the KONY video/spam happened. It is a good starting point for people to think about what is happening there (which is not necessary donating to this specific charity who may or may not advocate military action).

I am sure other more conventional charities working in Africa have seen a surge in interest and donations as a direct result of this.

It's simply not the case that having a huge sway of people creating a buzz about something is irrelevant, I still believe there is the power behind such a thing to influence governments etc to make actual positive changes. Weather this is the case with KONY i aint sure but something similar could easily happen in the future where the impact is both big and positive.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 02:21:05 PM »

... Overall its good to get people aware of this ....

Why?

What good does it do?

National governments, NATO, the  UN etc already know about it - and already have plans and opinions on it - it's completely irrelevant that a load of internet people also now know about it.
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Do you not think that the average population being educated about things like this is important?  What if the national govts, UN and NATO decided to do nothing and leave him alone like they basically did for a long time in Rwanda?  Should that not be a part of your overall decision making process at elections for example or do you think we should just leave governments and NGO's to do what they want with no scrutiny from the public?
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 01:14:53 AM »

Interesting insight into the organisaton behind the video.

http://wilwheaton.tumblr.com/post/18920717928/thedailywhat-on-kony-2012-i-honestly-wanted-to

Also this was covered on the 10'O Clock Show tonight on C-4, I'm sure it'll be posted on YouTube before long.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2012, 01:32:55 AM »

Is April 20th going to be like the Halloween III movie where all the kids heads turn in to maggots?

Instead of the silver shamrock we've got the Kony bracelet.

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 04:45:50 AM »

Oh dear....

Invisible Children boss Jason Russell arrested for masturbating in public: report

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/16/jason-russell-arrested/

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 12:33:52 PM »

Oh dear....

Invisible Children boss Jason Russell arrested for masturbating in public: report

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/16/jason-russell-arrested/

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