Diaries

[Claw75]

I think the point is that before we had a lot of diaries on here there were loads more new threads being started, and people were contributing across the board and, perhaps, 'mingling' better.  Now a lot of the time that interaction is confined to a handful of threads.

Re the thread title needing to be specific etc, well if someone posted a thread that was called 'fun maths quiz', people who enjoy that kind of thing would probably open it up and have a look.  If tikay posted a link to a 'fun maths quiz' in his diary, thousands could potentially miss out.

My personal viewpoint is I don't have a strong preference either way.  I fully agree with everything ohdear has said about Mantis though, obv.

[ohdear]

Can someone clarify something for me please?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the suggestion seems to be that the diarists should try to decide which of their entries should be made in the diary and which should be used to start a new thread.

If that is so, the actual title of the post would need to be very descriptive and precise, otherwise the potential reader would still have to open the thread and read the post to see if he was interested.

Also. what would happen if it was a subject that he was interested in, but then it wandered on to a subject that he wasn't interested in.

Example: A few days ago I posted in my diary about the cruise ship Concordia, and ended up discussing Bawtry auction.

What if someone was interested in the Concordia, but not in Bawtry auction? Do I change the title of the thread to reflect the change of subject, and if I do, will that put off future potential Concordia post readers?

What if it then goes away from Bawtry auction on to something else, or even back to Concordia? Would I end up with fragmented threads all over the forum?

Surely it's easier for those who want to avoid my drivel to have it all in the one place.

BTW I do contribute to lots of other threads, and so do most of the other diarist.

For the record, I don't care where they put my diary, but I don't want to have (Nor would I be able) to decide what should go in there and what should go in a new thread.

 

your discretion i suppose, you've been a mod and a well respected member of the community for a long time so i'm not sure why you would need someone else to answer that question, who better than someone who's spent as much time as you have and posted as many times on here to judge what posts of yours may be better served as individual threads in the rail or lounge to the larger benefit of the forum.
also it seems a bit pedantic to say "what if it digresess into another subject" etc etc, most threads digress and evolve into other things, that isn't really the point being discussed, in fact i'm not sure what point it is you're making, that you darn't EVER start a new thread outside of your own diary incase it goes off topic? seems a bit of a childish example to use but if it really needs responding to then i'll go out on a limb and say that if you were to start a thread about the concordia that evolved into one about bawtry auction then no that wouldnt cause floods of potential concordia newbie enthusiats heading for the exit, although i expect your questions were rhetorical and just served to make a point, not a very good one imo. there's been some good and coherent arguments both for and against moving the diarys and their impact on the forum but low and behold the first "throw toys out of pram" post comes from one of the biggest diarys owners, no one was attacking you, your diary or the forum, just throwing around some ideas that may improve the forum, your facetious post was unnecessary

[bobby1]

Mantis rocks, diff gravy.

Oh dear, post more sir.

[mouth]

Has anyone called the diary police?

[skolsuper]

Agree completely with all the points ohdear is making, although that broadside at red-dog probably won't win him any friends.

However I think everyone is missing the main point here: Diaries are for teenage girls.

[nirvana]

Agree completely with all the points ohdear is making, although that broadside at red-dog probably won't win him any friends.

However I think everyone is missing the main point here: Diaries are for teenage girls.

Yah, and public schoolboys

[Acidmouse]

Agree completely with all the points ohdear is making, although that broadside at red-dog probably won't win him any friends.

However I think everyone is missing the main point here: Diaries are for teenage girls.

Adrian Moles mum was hot.

[RED-DOG]

Can someone clarify something for me please?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the suggestion seems to be that the diarists should try to decide which of their entries should be made in the diary and which should be used to start a new thread.

If that is so, the actual title of the post would need to be very descriptive and precise, otherwise the potential reader would still have to open the thread and read the post to see if he was interested.

Also. what would happen if it was a subject that he was interested in, but then it wandered on to a subject that he wasn't interested in.

Example: A few days ago I posted in my diary about the cruise ship Concordia, and ended up discussing Bawtry auction.

What if someone was interested in the Concordia, but not in Bawtry auction? Do I change the title of the thread to reflect the change of subject, and if I do, will that put off future potential Concordia post readers?

What if it then goes away from Bawtry auction on to something else, or even back to Concordia? Would I end up with fragmented threads all over the forum?

Surely it's easier for those who want to avoid my drivel to have it all in the one place.

BTW I do contribute to lots of other threads, and so do most of the other diarist.

For the record, I don't care where they put my diary, but I don't want to have (Nor would I be able) to decide what should go in there and what should go in a new thread.

 

your discretion i suppose, you've been a mod and a well respected member of the community for a long time so i'm not sure why you would need someone else to answer that question, who better than someone who's spent as much time as you have and posted as many times on here to judge what posts of yours may be better served as individual threads in the rail or lounge to the larger benefit of the forum.
also it seems a bit pedantic to say "what if it digresess into another subject" etc etc, most threads digress and evolve into other things, that isn't really the point being discussed, in fact i'm not sure what point it is you're making, that you darn't EVER start a new thread outside of your own diary incase it goes off topic? seems a bit of a childish example to use but if it really needs responding to then i'll go out on a limb and say that if you were to start a thread about the concordia that evolved into one about bawtry auction then no that wouldnt cause floods of potential concordia newbie enthusiats heading for the exit, although i expect your questions were rhetorical and just served to make a point, not a very good one imo. there's been some good and coherent arguments both for and against moving the diarys and their impact on the forum but low and behold the first "throw toys out of pram" post comes from one of the biggest diarys owners, no one was attacking you, your diary or the forum, just throwing around some ideas that may improve the forum, your facetious post was unnecessary

Eh? LOL.

[smashedagain]

Ohdear are you Mike Ahearne aka Warrior from gladiators? Only really know him as a body builder who plays poker.
Is steroid rage really a side effect or just a myth?

[ohdear]

Can someone clarify something for me please?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the suggestion seems to be that the diarists should try to decide which of their entries should be made in the diary and which should be used to start a new thread.

If that is so, the actual title of the post would need to be very descriptive and precise, otherwise the potential reader would still have to open the thread and read the post to see if he was interested.

Also. what would happen if it was a subject that he was interested in, but then it wandered on to a subject that he wasn't interested in.

Example: A few days ago I posted in my diary about the cruise ship Concordia, and ended up discussing Bawtry auction.

What if someone was interested in the Concordia, but not in Bawtry auction? Do I change the title of the thread to reflect the change of subject, and if I do, will that put off future potential Concordia post readers?

What if it then goes away from Bawtry auction on to something else, or even back to Concordia? Would I end up with fragmented threads all over the forum?

Surely it's easier for those who want to avoid my drivel to have it all in the one place.

BTW I do contribute to lots of other threads, and so do most of the other diarist.

For the record, I don't care where they put my diary, but I don't want to have (Nor would I be able) to decide what should go in there and what should go in a new thread.

 

your discretion i suppose, you've been a mod and a well respected member of the community for a long time so i'm not sure why you would need someone else to answer that question, who better than someone who's spent as much time as you have and posted as many times on here to judge what posts of yours may be better served as individual threads in the rail or lounge to the larger benefit of the forum.
also it seems a bit pedantic to say "what if it digress into another subject" etc etc, most threads digress and evolve into other things, that isn't really the point being discussed, in fact i'm not sure what point it is you're making, that you darn't EVER start a new thread outside of your own diary incase it goes off topic? seems a bit of a childish example to use but if it really needs responding to then i'll go out on a limb and say that if you were to start a thread about the concordia that evolved into one about bawtry auction then no that wouldnt cause floods of potential concordia newbie enthusiats heading for the exit, although i expect your questions were rhetorical and just served to make a point, not a very good one imo. there's been some good and coherent arguments both for and against moving the diarys and their impact on the forum but low and behold the first "throw toys out of pram" post comes from one of the biggest diarys owners, no one was attacking you, your diary or the forum, just throwing around some ideas that may improve the forum, your facetious post was unnecessary

Eh? LOL.

if this was tongue in cheek then i apologise, sorry. it's just that there's been some really good arguments put forward by long standing members of the forum and they're not even being considered, i've maintained from the start that there are so many obvious benefits to moving the diaries to their own board but that was with some outside perspective being a long time reader and coming from a forum that already has it in place it seems so obvious to me though when i wrote my first post on the subject i didn't expect to be taken that seriously, i dont think i should tbh, i havn't really earned the right, i just wanted to tell you what my opinion was but when gatso and longy and others that are very well renowned posters here post on the subject and put forward a number of reasons, all good as to why this change would be a good thing for the forum then it at least merits some discussion.

looking back just through what gatso, longy and shogun said without my own personal view some reasons why the diaries should be moved to their own section and why maybe their posters could be more mindful to be active more on the forum in general were

-harder for newbies to get involved
-less traffic overall on the site
-frustrating for preexisting members looking for conversation on the rail when they dont follow all the diaries
-people post random stuff on the diarys of friends so its limited who can see it instead of starting a new thread
- important discussions being missed by regulars who dont follow particular diaries but the subject matter could just as easily, if not more appropriately, be in its own thread

and so on and so on, there were a few more ideas put forward as well, but so far not one real decent, if any, argument has come back, especially in light of the above reasons, why the forum wont even consider having the discussion about moving them. to me it's obvious but i hope i'm just being cynical, there is only one real downside to moving the diaries and compelling the originators of them to post more actively on the forum and that is because although it would be of overall benefit to the forum, i think most people can see that, it would be individually disagreeable to the owners of the top diaries to 1) have their diary stuffed away in a crummy little corner, and 2) not chatting about the days events, what's in the news etc on their diary would detract from it's importance. i think everyone knows this especially the people with the diaries but they've been worked hard on so in a way i dont blame you but on the other hand there's no way you can be so blind as to not see how monopolising the days events and current affairs chat on your diary is hurting the forum, its to the detriment of the forum and i think to sustain the importance of your diaries you've been willing to sacrifice certain areas of the forum and if you want the forum to grow it shouldn't continue imo.

greekstien posted this this morning, i thought at the time it may have been to wind me up because id just made my first post about this but even if this was an attempt to bait me i'll use it as an example just to finish off my point and leave it there, like i say even if his post was meant to wind me up or get me to bite i'll use it as an example as its exactly the kind of thing that goes on daily and is costing the forum

this thread comes up early in the morning about the kony2012 thing http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57073.0

the guy posts with it the original video, links to news sites, his own opinion on it plus a description, a great post and a great way to start a thread

a couple of hours later on his diary greekstien posts this......http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=50836.msg1527770#msg1527770

is says: "I've seen stuff about Joseph Kony but a little ashamed to say I know nothing about him.

Can anyone provide the link to an article or youtube video (preferably a shortish one) to get me up to date.

Why has it all come out now?"

that sums up everything that's wrong with the forum and the out of control diary system in place, that original thread got a measly 12 replies, what if a newbie had happend to be killing time and saw the thread in the lounge, has an opinion on it, a strong one, thinks he'd like to jump in but sees at the time the thread only has 6 replies, not exactly enticing, oh hang on, what an idiot he is, didn't he thing to look on the last page but one of greekstiens diary for conversation on the matter?

if anything from what greekstien wrote he probably saw the headline of the thread in the community part of the forum and instead on investigating it it was natural to just come back to his own diary and ask what it's all about, this is where you guys have gotton it, and continue to get it so so wrong on so many different levels with the diaries imo

[Junior Senior]

Fucking hell, and I thought i could go on a bit........

[Claw75]

Fucking hell, and I thought i could go on a bit........

you should start a diary

[nirvana]

Perhaps we can stickie this thread below the DTD threads. Diary board sorted.. and with a title thread.

[ohdear]

Ohdear are you Mike Ahearne aka Warrior from gladiators? Only really know him as a body builder who plays poker.
Is steroid rage really a side effect or just a myth?

lol if i was why did you put the aka bit and my gladiators name too? if i was Mike Ahearne despite the large amount of steroids i may or may not have taken i'd still remember i was in gladiators and what my stage name was

roid rage is a myth fyi

[smashedagain]

Ohdear are you Mike Ahearne aka Warrior from gladiators? Only really know him as a body builder who plays poker.
Is steroid rage really a side effect or just a myth?

lol if i was why did you put the aka bit and my gladiators name too? if i was Mike Ahearne despite the large amount of steroids i may or may not have taken i'd still remember i was in gladiators and what my stage name was

roid rage is a myth fyi

Look I've met Mike a few times and for the most part he struggles to remember he is Mike let alone that he was actually Warrior back in the day