Ruling Q

[permanentquandary]

I'm not going to undermine our TDs because they are all brilliant. What I will say is that the leftmost card on the flop would have been the burn card if the dealer had done it right initially because we will always deal the flop one card at a time left to right as standard DTD policy. They have been phasing out 3 card flops even though IMO it looks better and is quicker. But the protection of players against mechaniching the deck is more important than speed and any dealer flair.

[Alverton]

Put the flop back in the pack, reshuffle

god no

we now have the wrong turn and river

Dear god NO.  Hate this wrong turn, river malarkey.  2 random cards which aren't in play yet, means they are still random.

[RH12]

If what Mr Quandry said above is being adhered to, which i assume it was, then where is the issue? The 1st 'flop' card becomes the burn card, the 4th card completes the flop, turn and river as per.

[gatso]

gatso: not buying this "correct" turn and river stuff. I never have.

The turn and river are going to be 2 random cards from the deck.

If we reshuffle the turn and river are still going to be 2 random cards from the deck.

So the same.

the 3 cards on our incorrect flop are also 3 random cards so why do we need to change them?

as I said, my favoured option is to just keep this flop

[MATHburns]

I also am failing to see where the problem could come from. Can someone explain how the flop was dealt because as Mr Quandary said above, we are all trained to deal the flop one card at a time. Indeed, I had a similar situation on a cash table with Mr Zerofive when I dealt the flop without burning but just turned the first exposed card into the burn and added a card on the end to complete it.

And as for dealing "true" turn and river cards, I thought that only applied when there is betting on further rounds, but I could be wrong.

[rex008]

I'm guessing he dealt 3 face down, flipped them over, then spread them, which would make the burn card the one on the right. Possibly. That's the only other way I've ever seen it done, but I've seen it like that regularly in DTD with blow-in dealers.

[WotRTheChances]

gatso: not buying this "correct" turn and river stuff. I never have.

The turn and river are going to be 2 random cards from the deck.

If we reshuffle the turn and river are still going to be 2 random cards from the deck.

So the same.

So much this. Tilts me pretty hard when they put out the 'correct' turn/river.... it's random... totally random, no-one knows if reshuffling will make the turn/river better for either player.

Not really sure how the dealer can't know which card came first, surely dealers deal the same way every time, so the same card will always be the first one.

As I mentioned on another thread, the stardard of dealers is definately getting worse, mistakes like this more common.... stuff like this is just embarrassing.

[permanentquandary]

I just realised OP is not talking about DTD lol

[rex008]

I just realised OP is not talking about DTD lol

I blame you for me thinking it was too .

[Shogun112]

What would be a standard ruling for a duplicate card ?

e.g all in pot hu board runs out  xxx 

I heard of this once before.  One table had 53 cards somehow, other table had 51.  Tournament was cancelled and restarted.