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[Marky147]

Are scallops the same as scones?

Scallops from the chip shop are just a slice from a huge cooked potato, battered and deep fried.
Granny style scallops are potatoes cut like thick crisps and shallow fried.
Well that how they are in our place anyway.

Thanks, a scone in Burnley is fish sandwiched between two slices of potato battered and deep fried. I think.

That's a cake!!! Any Northerner worth their salt knows that

xx

Yea its a fishcake xx

Ahem, I think you'll find that fishcakes are the small round ones with the mashed up fish-potato-
green bits, covered in orange breadcrumbs.

Definitely this and they're amazing!!

[RED-DOG]

Lol, Redsgirl minus weight of lower leg and eye Plus weight of parrot, cutlass and earring=

Deserves more love.

[Geo the Sarge]

Lol, Redsgirl minus weight of lower leg and eye Plus weight of parrot, cutlass and earring=

Deserves more love.

Why is everyone talking about pirates today??

Geo

[rex008]

Great response. However, I'm a chemical engineer. No 1 rule: In - Out = Accumulation.

Thanks Rex, I'll have a reread over some stuff too and we can tackle that IN-OUT thing.

In = Food, drink and Oxygen
Out = Poo, Piss and Carbon Dioxide (ok, a few nano-grams of mass get converted to energy, if you really want to be pedantic)
Accumulation = my fat belly

What's to tackle? Don't come all biology namby-pamby with the laws of physics man!

I love the internets. 

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/2605/how-does-mass-leave-the-body-when-you-lose-weight

The answers aren't particularly satisfactory IMHO . Your body makes energy from sugars and oxygen. The waste product of this reaction is carbon dioxide and water. So as you convert food into energy you basically sweat out some of it, and breath out the rest (O2 in, CO2 out). That's basically how you "lose weight". There's some more complicated chemistry with anaerobic respiration, but you end up with pretty much the same. The rest is utterly irrelevant as it doesn't involve mass entering or leaving the body.

[TRIP5]

Are scallops the same as scones?

Scallops from the chip shop are just a slice from a huge cooked potato, battered and deep fried.
Granny style scallops are potatoes cut like thick crisps and shallow fried.
Well that how they are in our place anyway.

Thanks, a scone in Burnley is fish sandwiched between two slices of potato battered and deep fried. I think.

That's a cake!!! Any Northerner worth their salt knows that

xx

Yea its a fishcake xx

Ahem, I think you'll find that fishcakes are the small round ones with the mashed up fish-potato-
green bits, covered in orange breadcrumbs.

Definitely this and they're amazing!!

Yup.. the round flat mashed up fish and potato things covered in breadcrumbs ARE fish cakes...



However, chopped up fish placed in a potato sandwich, battered and deep fried is simply a cake..



aka cake and chips please.. or if you'd prefer.. cake butty please...

I'll take mine with scraps, 2 sachets of red sauce and a can of full fat Dandelion and Burdock thanks

xx

[Redsgirl]

Are scallops the same as scones?

Scallops from the chip shop are just a slice from a huge cooked potato, battered and deep fried.
Granny style scallops are potatoes cut like thick crisps and shallow fried.
Well that how they are in our place anyway.

Thanks, a scone in Burnley is fish sandwiched between two slices of potato battered and deep fried. I think.

That's a cake!!! Any Northerner worth their salt knows that

xx

Yea its a fishcake xx

Ahem, I think you'll find that fishcakes are the small round ones with the mashed up fish-potato-
green bits, covered in orange breadcrumbs.

Definitely this and they're amazing!!

Yup.. the round flat mashed up fish and potato things covered in breadcrumbs ARE fish cakes...



However, chopped up fish placed in a potato sandwich, battered and deep fried is simply a cake..



aka cake and chips please.. or if you'd prefer.. cake butty please...

I'll take mine with scraps, 2 sachets of red sauce and a can of full fat Dandelion and Burdock thanks

xx

Methinks your northern isn't quite northern enough....
Please scroll down to the Menu, left hand column, item ten.
http://www.4durhamcounty.co.uk/mini/clems/

This is the chip shop of all chip shops. Their gravy, which we have already established is a benchmark of a good northern chippy, comes with onions and mushrooms and shreds of braised
steak in it, as standard!
If Clems says its a pattie, its a pattie.
I thank you.

[kinboshi]

Great response. However, I'm a chemical engineer. No 1 rule: In - Out = Accumulation.

Thanks Rex, I'll have a reread over some stuff too and we can tackle that IN-OUT thing.

In = Food, drink and Oxygen
Out = Poo, Piss and Carbon Dioxide (ok, a few nano-grams of mass get converted to energy, if you really want to be pedantic)
Accumulation = my fat belly

What's to tackle? Don't come all biology namby-pamby with the laws of physics man!

I love the internets. 

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/2605/how-does-mass-leave-the-body-when-you-lose-weight

The answers aren't particularly satisfactory IMHO . Your body makes energy from sugars and oxygen. The waste product of this reaction is carbon dioxide and water. So as you convert food into energy you basically sweat out some of it, and breath out the rest (O2 in, CO2 out). That's basically how you "lose weight". There's some more complicated chemistry with anaerobic respiration, but you end up with pretty much the same. The rest is utterly irrelevant as it doesn't involve mass entering or leaving the body.

Some of the 'proper' answers further down (ignore the comments) are good.  Like they say, if you look at the body as a self-contained system, the only things that 'leave' your body, and therefore reduce the mass are:

- Sweat
- Air we breathe out (oxygen, CO2, nitrogen, water vapour, trace chemicals)
- Waste (solid and liquid)
- Dead skin/hair cells that 'fall off'
- Minute amounts of mass that is converted to heat

So with any 'diet', the way weight is actually lost is when the body metabolises 'energy' stored in fats/sugars/proteins and converts them into energy or other useful compounds, and some is turned into 'waste' (mostly water, co2, or stuff you need to dispose of down the loo).

[KarmaDope]

Are scallops the same as scones?

Scallops from the chip shop are just a slice from a huge cooked potato, battered and deep fried.
Granny style scallops are potatoes cut like thick crisps and shallow fried.
Well that how they are in our place anyway.

Thanks, a scone in Burnley is fish sandwiched between two slices of potato battered and deep fried. I think.

That's a cake!!! Any Northerner worth their salt knows that

xx

Yea its a fishcake xx

Ahem, I think you'll find that fishcakes are the small round ones with the mashed up fish-potato-
green bits, covered in orange breadcrumbs.

Definitely this and they're amazing!!

Yup.. the round flat mashed up fish and potato things covered in breadcrumbs ARE fish cakes...



However, chopped up fish placed in a potato sandwich, battered and deep fried is simply a cake..



aka cake and chips please.. or if you'd prefer.. cake butty please...

I'll take mine with scraps, 2 sachets of red sauce and a can of full fat Dandelion and Burdock thanks

xx

Methinks your northern isn't quite northern enough....
Please scroll down to the Menu, left hand column, item ten.
http://www.4durhamcounty.co.uk/mini/clems/

This is the chip shop of all chip shops. Their gravy, which we have already established is a benchmark of a good northern chippy, comes with onions and mushrooms and shreds of braised
steak in it, as standard!
If Clems says its a pattie, its a pattie.
I thank you.

No self-respecting Northener ever eats gravy with fecking mushrooms in, it's the devil's gravy that is!

Onions? Yes
Steak? Yes

Mushrooms? That one's easy...

[Redsgirl]

             ^^^^
         

[ManuelsMum]

Great response. However, I'm a chemical engineer. No 1 rule: In - Out = Accumulation.

Thanks Rex, I'll have a reread over some stuff too and we can tackle that IN-OUT thing.

In = Food, drink and Oxygen
Out = Poo, Piss and Carbon Dioxide (ok, a few nano-grams of mass get converted to energy, if you really want to be pedantic)
Accumulation = my fat belly

What's to tackle? Don't come all biology namby-pamby with the laws of physics man!

So I suppose Calorie-controlled diet people are big on this hypothesis, and there is a certain amount of truth to the whole IN-OUT thing.
IN
Calories from food
OUT
Waste, the other stuff you mentioned.

IN>OUT Gain weight
OUT>IN Lose weight.

Another related hypothesis: The most important (some would say only) factor in determining weight gain is the number of calories consumed versus the calories 'burnt' through activity and normal digestion.
 In other words, if Bob and Mike are identical twins, and we feed them the same number of calories, and they carry out the same 'work', but the types of foods that make up these calories are totally different, there will be no difference in weight gain between them. An example would be Bob drinking water and Mike drinking 4 cans of diet Pepsi per day. Same calorific value, right?

Apparently, it ain't so.

How could this be? Biology apparently. Insulin n stuff. Insulin became famous in diet speak because levels change as blood sugar levels change, and blood sugar levels change depending on the Glycemic Index of what you're eating (White rice v high, for example, houmous v low). In certain situations of very high blood sugar (after a giant curry I suppose), the insulin will work to bring the blood sugar down, will over-compensate, you'll have too low blood sugar, you can't draw from fat stores for energy due to high insulin levels, so your body turns to protein and starts attacking lean muscle mass. So I read anyway, I'm no expert in this. A bit pissed off at this too, I thought I had a miracle rice diet on the go.
Metabolism is similarly raised as an issue by the diet drinks/ acid-forming foods argument people. Irrespective of the number of calories you consume, if the blood acid levels cause your metabolism to be compromised (messing with your thyroid iodine or something), you will store the calories as fat more readily.
Seems to make sense and have quite a lot of support. Pure calorie controlled diet, and one with fizzy pop and high levels of acid-forming foods, /high GI foods, not the way to go I think.

How do high GI foods in general make you store more fat when calorie levels are the same? Don't know, need to read on it.
How do fizzy drinks/ other acid-forming foods affect mineral levels that then (probably) modify insulin levels and metabolism to make you gain weight even though you didn't take in too many calories? Don't know, need to read on it.

All I know for certain is that I now really want a big can of kinboshi's Rubicon and some of Trip5's northern fishcakes, please.

[TRIP5]

Are scallops the same as scones?

Scallops from the chip shop are just a slice from a huge cooked potato, battered and deep fried.
Granny style scallops are potatoes cut like thick crisps and shallow fried.
Well that how they are in our place anyway.

Thanks, a scone in Burnley is fish sandwiched between two slices of potato battered and deep fried. I think.

That's a cake!!! Any Northerner worth their salt knows that

xx

Yea its a fishcake xx

Ahem, I think you'll find that fishcakes are the small round ones with the mashed up fish-potato-
green bits, covered in orange breadcrumbs.

Definitely this and they're amazing!!

Yup.. the round flat mashed up fish and potato things covered in breadcrumbs ARE fish cakes...



However, chopped up fish placed in a potato sandwich, battered and deep fried is simply a cake..



aka cake and chips please.. or if you'd prefer.. cake butty please...

I'll take mine with scraps, 2 sachets of red sauce and a can of full fat Dandelion and Burdock thanks

xx

Methinks your northern isn't quite northern enough....
Please scroll down to the Menu, left hand column, item ten.
http://www.4durhamcounty.co.uk/mini/clems/

This is the chip shop of all chip shops. Their gravy, which we have already established is a benchmark of a good northern chippy, comes with onions and mushrooms and shreds of braised
steak in it, as standard!
If Clems says its a pattie, its a pattie.
I thank you.

GTFO...

That menu is practically Scottish.. and WTF do the Scottish know about cake and chips?? Why would 'Clems' produce a Scottish hybrid menu I hear you ask? Well, primarily because Durham, Newcastle, Sunderland et al are practically part of Scotland, as beautifully demonstrated by Hexam having Hadrians wall running through it.....

I think you'll find all of us Yorkshire folks are just Northern enough thanks!!!

For that reason, your feeble attempt to de-rail my cakeness is a definite fail.. on both counts.

I thank you... twice

xx

[kinboshi]

Manuel's Old Dear, I'm also pretty certain that the picture is further clouded by the way different people deal with different foods and their bodies metabolise fats, carbs, proteins differently.

I also think you'd have to drink a LOT of anything like diet coke for it to have a dramatic effect on your body and your weight.

[ManuelsMum]

Are scallops the same as scones?

Scallops from the chip shop are just a slice from a huge cooked potato, battered and deep fried.
Granny style scallops are potatoes cut like thick crisps and shallow fried.
Well that how they are in our place anyway.

Thanks, a scone in Burnley is fish sandwiched between two slices of potato battered and deep fried. I think.

That's a cake!!! Any Northerner worth their salt knows that

xx

Yea its a fishcake xx

Ahem, I think you'll find that fishcakes are the small round ones with the mashed up fish-potato-
green bits, covered in orange breadcrumbs.

Definitely this and they're amazing!!

Yup.. the round flat mashed up fish and potato things covered in breadcrumbs ARE fish cakes...



However, chopped up fish placed in a potato sandwich, battered and deep fried is simply a cake..



aka cake and chips please.. or if you'd prefer.. cake butty please...

I'll take mine with scraps, 2 sachets of red sauce and a can of full fat Dandelion and Burdock thanks

xx

Methinks your northern isn't quite northern enough....
Please scroll down to the Menu, left hand column, item ten.
http://www.4durhamcounty.co.uk/mini/clems/

This is the chip shop of all chip shops. Their gravy, which we have already established is a benchmark of a good northern chippy, comes with onions and mushrooms and shreds of braised
steak in it, as standard!
If Clems says its a pattie, its a pattie.
I thank you.

GTFO...

That menu is practically Scottish.. and WTF do the Scottish know about cake and chips?? Why would 'Clems' produce a Scottish hybrid menu I hear you ask? Well, primarily because Durham, Newcastle, Sunderland et al are practically part of Scotland, as beautifully demonstrated by Hexam having Hadrians wall running through it.....

I think you'll find all of us Yorkshire folks are just Northern enough thanks!!!

For that reason, your feeble attempt to de-rail my cakeness is a definite fail.. on both counts.

I thank you... twice

xx

lol POTW.

Translation please?

[Girgy85]

Mushrooms in gravy??? GTFO!!!!

[mondatoo]

Are scallops the same as scones?

Scallops from the chip shop are just a slice from a huge cooked potato, battered and deep fried.
Granny style scallops are potatoes cut like thick crisps and shallow fried.
Well that how they are in our place anyway.

Thanks, a scone in Burnley is fish sandwiched between two slices of potato battered and deep fried. I think.

That's a cake!!! Any Northerner worth their salt knows that

xx

Yea its a fishcake xx

Ahem, I think you'll find that fishcakes are the small round ones with the mashed up fish-potato-
green bits, covered in orange breadcrumbs.

Definitely this and they're amazing!!

Yup.. the round flat mashed up fish and potato things covered in breadcrumbs ARE fish cakes...



However, chopped up fish placed in a potato sandwich, battered and deep fried is simply a cake..



aka cake and chips please.. or if you'd prefer.. cake butty please...

I'll take mine with scraps, 2 sachets of red sauce and a can of full fat Dandelion and Burdock thanks

xx

Methinks your northern isn't quite northern enough....
Please scroll down to the Menu, left hand column, item ten.
http://www.4durhamcounty.co.uk/mini/clems/

This is the chip shop of all chip shops. Their gravy, which we have already established is a benchmark of a good northern chippy, comes with onions and mushrooms and shreds of braised
steak in it, as standard!
If Clems says its a pattie, its a pattie.
I thank you.

GTFO...

That menu is practically Scottish.. and WTF do the Scottish know about cake and chips?? Why would 'Clems' produce a Scottish hybrid menu I hear you ask? Well, primarily because Durham, Newcastle, Sunderland et al are practically part of Scotland, as beautifully demonstrated by Hexam having Hadrians wall running through it.....

I think you'll find all of us Yorkshire folks are just Northern enough thanks!!!

For that reason, your feeble attempt to de-rail my cakeness is a definite fail.. on both counts.

I thank you... twice

xx

WHAT ?

Nice attempt to push is into Scotland so you can pretend your proper northerners, good effort.