Important - New Tournament Charges at Dusk Till Dawn from 1st April 2012

[TightEnd]

I've read Skippy's post several times and still don't agree that is a negative. A pretty major benefit for regular players there, I would have thought

Yeah, sure, lower rake is great for me. But I'm trying to think about the club too. a) They are already dealing comps at a loss b) They are not unreasonably priced at the moment. Why cut prices? I like playing at DTD, and would like the place to do well.

Understand that, but the cost/benefit must have a strong chance of being positive or else Nick would never have agreed 

[AndrewT]

Whilst it's not the case at DTD, Skippy makes a good point that the all-in buyin is used in Vegas to skim the pot without the players realising how much juice they're paying.

You can just imagine how some less poker-orientated UK casino chains may take advantage of tourney buyins not being described as £X+£Y were that notation to become standard.

[scotty77]

Obviously great for players, but like Skippy I was more than happy with the juice before.  I maybe play at DTD once or twice a month (would do more if I wasn't 2 hours away) and its such an excellent venue then I have no problem paying the extra few quid compared to other venues juice.

[Matt.NFFC.]

So, for my £20, I now get a £15 tournament, a small glass of coke, and I can play 1 hand of blackjack instead of just the tournament.

Seems more than reasonable to me, thanks.

[Junior Senior]

Skippy, So as a punter You pay less juice but you aren't happy with that?

I am an educated person but can't get my head around it. Dtd intentions are always honorable and fair and Rob is no mug as a business man so am sure he had this worked out. Quit complaining IMO

[lutonrover]

really good news and well done DTD , this means travelling from Luton just got a bit more appealing , I have the 150 comp in mind , that 18 quid will do nicely for some fuel thanks very much


If you live locally you must be dancing in the street !!!

[ThudNBlunder]

I think this is a very positive move from DTD and simplifies the whole tournament process for the casual players that are the life blood of the game. If any of the more 'serious' players have a problems with it of the 'thin end of the wedge' variety they should just adjust their thinking to see it as a lower buy in tournament and work out the juice accordingly; if they were happy paying £8 on a £50 then they should be happy paying £5 on a £45! Raking the pot will only ever affect 10% of the field anyway and the vast majority of players will see it as a 'saving'.

Anyone who has ever run a low/ medium stakes tournament will know it's a loss making proposition and the main purpose is to attract players to the other facilities available,in particular the cash games. If this can attract extra players to the club who feel that they've 'saved' money on the tourney then there's a greater chance that they'll sit down at the cash games and actually generate a profit for the club.

From a personal point of view I have no problem with the club trying to cover their tourney costs so while I appreciate the slight discount in rake it wasn't really neccessary,I'm happy to pay anyway. Has anyone at the club thought of using the 'dealer bonus chips' rake they use in Vegas to help pay the costs? Most players happily pay that as well knowing that all of it is going to the house on top of the percentage of the prize pool.

Good luck with the new initiative; it'll be interesting to see how quickly others follow suit.

[Cf]

Not sure I really see the point. Not that I mind either way. At the end of the day you are going to charge us for running a tournament. All that's happening is you're changing the way this is displayed.

To me though it just seems that in effect all tournaments are having their buyins lowered.

£50+£8 becomes £45+£5

£150+£18 becomes £135+£15

So to me it seems you'll be making less money. I don't think anyone here has a problem with your % so not sure why you'd be lowering it. Obviously if you think it'll get more players through to make it up then win-win as you get your juice and prize pools are higher.

[Matt.NFFC.]

really good news and well done DTD , this means travelling from Luton just got a bit more appealing , I have the 150 comp in mind , that 18 quid will do nicely for some fuel thanks very much


If you live locally you must be dancing in the street !!!

That poxy £5 now gets me a drink and a shot at getting my buy in back so yeah, if I could dance, I probably would.  The £18 will make a big difference to some folk.

[leethefish]

Skippy,

This is and always has been IMO  dtd all over they try there hardest to make everything they do accessable to us the casual player to make our playing poker socialising and overall dtd experience the best it can be.

They go the extra mile EVERY time without question without fail

they try new things they make changes some good some not so ...but always with us in mind always.

they put a hell of a lot of money into the poker comunity with guarantees etc now reducing reg fees ......... ffs man give them a break its a great idea and welcomed by me for one.

in fact i like it so much a little dance to celebrate  ...............

[leethefish]

one other point if me and mrs fish both play the super 50 and both re-enter then thats £32 saved and probs a meal at dtd before we leave !! ....

[kinboshi]

one other point if me and mrs fish both play the super 50 and both re-enter then thats £32 saved and probs a meal at dtd before we leave !! ....

If she just plays it, that's £50 saved

[leethefish]

one other point if me and mrs fish both play the super 50 and both re-enter then thats £32 saved and probs a meal at dtd before we leave !! ....

If she just plays it, that's £50 saved

good point i may just stay home on sat now and look after the kids !

[Skippy]

really good news and well done DTD , this means travelling from Luton just got a bit more appealing , I have the 150 comp in mind , that 18 quid will do nicely for some fuel thanks very much

Folk do realise that means that when you win, you win less money, because the buy in is smaller, right? By your logic you'd be better off playing a £20 comp since then you'd have £148 extra for petrol.

[outragous76]

This move is so shrewd it's fantastic!

Wp Dtd! Seems you have found a result which is good for all involved! Vwp