Tottenham's goal against Chelsea

[kinboshi]

I'm just glad the laws of the game are so clear and allow the officials to make snap decisions under pressure.

Ball crossing the line is fairly clear, and they fail to make the right decision on that often enough.

[WarBwastard]

I'm just glad the laws of the game are so clear and allow the officials to make snap decisions under pressure.

Ball crossing the line is fairly clear, and they fail to make the right decision on that often enough.

er Just so we're clear, I was being sarcastic.

[kinboshi]

I'm just glad the laws of the game are so clear and allow the officials to make snap decisions under pressure.

Ball crossing the line is fairly clear, and they fail to make the right decision on that often enough.

er Just so we're clear, I was being sarcastic.

I know. I was agreeing.

[gatso]

Serious foul play would mean an advantage would not be allowed to go on, however a red card offence could be allowed to continue through advantage as long as its not serious foul play.

not sure where you get that from. as I quoted earlier from the laws of the game

Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play unless
there is a clear subsequent opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send
off the player guilty of serious foul play when the ball is next out of play.
A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area).

a goal was scored so it's pretty clear there was a goal scoring opportunity so if it was considered serious foul play the ref must play on, give the goal and send off the player. he didn't do this so I'm assuming he didn't consider it as serious foul play

I think (but not sure) that you're saying that they never actually apply the law this way despite it being pretty clear. you may well be right, there are certainly some situations where refs generally do something slightly different to what they should do according to the letter of the law either because it's just gradually become accepted or because they're given certain guidelines

[Josedinho]

Sorry Gatso, on my phone so can't find it V easy. What's the wording on denying clear goalscoring opportunity? Looks to me like he did deny one, then subsequently there was another but not sure that should matter (imo as I said not sure on the law).

Also will people stop suggesting stuff that will keep players on the pitch. If reds ruin games then teach defenders + keepers to not attempt a challenge unless they are sure they can win the ball. This should equal more shots, more goals and less games decided by red cards.

[gatso]

'There are two sending-off offences that deal with denying an opponent an
obvious opportunity to score a goal. It is not necessary for the offence to occur
inside the penalty area.
If the referee applies advantage during an obvious goalscoring opportunity and
a goal is scored directly, despite the opponent’s handling the ball or fouling an
opponent, the player cannot be sent off but he may still be cautioned.
Referees should consider the following circumstances when deciding whether
to send off a player for denying a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity:
• the distance between the offence and the goal
• the likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
• the direction of the play
• the location and number of defenders
• the offence which denies an opponent an obvious goalscoring opportunity
may be an offence that incurs a direct free kick or an indirect free kick'

so cech couldn't have been sent off even if he'd kung fu kicked him? these laws seem to contradict each other a bit

[gatso]

unrelated but an interesting rule that I just found and don't really get

If a player plays in a dangerous manner in a “normal” challenge, the
referee should not take any disciplinary action. If the action is made with
obvious risk of injury, the referee should caution the player

[Cf]

People saying that Bale can choose not to put the ball in the net and take the penalty instead? Since when does a player have this option? If a ref plays advantage the player can't turn around and say "Actually, i'd rather have the free kick.". Obviously sometimes advantage is played and pulled back to the free kick but this is the refs choice. Surely if a player in this situation is too stupid to put the ball in the net then tough luck? The advantage was clearly there, they just failed to um, take advantage of it.